Backup software suggestions?

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  1. g29andy

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    I just got a Seagate FreeAgent 500GB external drive, mainly for extra storage of music files and photos (new 10MP camera).

    Been gambling until now, relying on system restore. However, I'd like to use some of the new drive space to store a backup image of my system, just in case (backup the whole enchilada)

    I tried Acronis True Image 11 today. Installation hung up twice, finally completed install after disabling AVG. Once installed, the program hangs frequently. New version bugs or not, I'm not putting up with this, refund is pending.

    Anyone tried Norton Ghost? I'm reluctant to use Norton after prior experience with Norton Antivirus.

    Any other suggestions?

    XP Home, SP2, 3GB RAM, Pentium4 3gHz, ZoneAlarm, AVG, SpyBot, AdAware, Windows Defender

    Thanks.
     
  2. vanderson

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    SyncBackSE works great for me, but there is far more professional programs out there.

    If you get Norton Ghost get Norton Ghost 9 or older because the new ones suck! Trust me!
     

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    Thanks for the reply. I checked on their website and looks interesting, but couldn't tell if SyncBackSE allows you to create a complete hard drive image or not. Can you do this?
     
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    Acronis 10 is really stable. I think you can still get it on newegg for around 25 bux.
     
  5. Tennessee Slim

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    What do you need done that Eks Pee's native backup tool can't?
     
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    Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't have a floppy, like XP's backup states you need for recovery settings.

    Sorry if this seems very basic, but I have no experience with any backup software, besides system restore. Foolish, I know.
     
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    XP and Vista's backup utility sucks, I have used it for a bit and its horrible at least in a corporate world. Thus I stay away from it. Norton Ghost can do a full image of your hard drive... as far as SyncBackSE it only does said files and honestly thats all you need.

    Why do you want to make an image of the entire hard drive for backup?
     
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    I was thinking it would be easier to restore from a complete image (including OS, OS updates and service packs, etc).
     
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    Use Norton Ghost then. Best thing for that.
     
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    You don't need a floppy.
     
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    TS is correct. But use Norton Ghost as I never liked the XP nor the Vista backup utility but non-the-less try it first, hell its free :)
     
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    I'll try the XP backup, minus the floppy.
     
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    Well, after digging out the old OEM XP Home disc to install Backup, it will NOT do a complete hard drive backup (All information on this computer) without a floppy.

    Will do backups of My Documents and Settings for now.




    Initially, I tried to install the Seagate DiskWizard software, since my external drive is a Seagate FreeAgent. However, it wouldn't install because "no Seagate drive found" even though the drive mounts and is accessible. DiskWizard looks like a bastardized version of Acronis TrueImage anyway.

    So I bought the latest Acronis TrueImage 11, mucho problems. Had to uninstall, clean registry, etc to get things running smoothly again.

    I'll stick with Microsoft Backup unless I find a simple disk image program that I can't screw up too easily. Wash. DC usually comes along with a link to a good, small, usually free program :wavey:

    Thanks guys.
     
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    Select "Let me choose what to back up". Then -- as in the pic below -- select all your HDDs and your system state. That will back up everything.

    <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9996/backupky2.png" /></a>

    I skipped the disk with my page file for obvious reasons.

    EDIT:
    NTBackup is installed by default. You shouldn't have had to install it specifically.
     
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    NORTON GHOST :banana:
     
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    I have been using the CMS BounceBack Express that came with my 500G Seagate external.

    I have not yet done a restore with it but will soon.
    MY HD just died at the tender age of 13 months. As soon as I get Dell to come out and replace it I will find out.
     
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    With XP Home, you have to install the Backup program from the XP Home Disk, under "other tasks" or something.

    XP Pro has Backup already installed.



    Is Norton Ghost a resource hog like Norton AntiVirus?

    Thanks, Tennesse Slim. I'll try your suggestion.
     
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    My bad, I didn't pick up that it was XP Home.
     
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    I've been backing up my documents, pics, etc. but have not been backing up my software, but just recently I realized that my Seagate external drive is about three feet away from my PC. That's great for a PC crash however sucks for fire, flood, lightning strike etc.

    I've decided to purchase another external hard drive to put in my S.D. box about every three-six months. Just something to think about...
     
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    My stock in trade is providing the client with low-to-no cost solutions to their IT problems. That’s one of the reasons I lean to NTBackup: it comes free with every server Microsloth sells. Another reason is that it works. Third-party backup apps might be flashier but when nut-cuttin’ time comes, none of them can do one thing any better: create an integrity-tested backup file.

    At home, I generally only back up my data files and only make a true backup when the system is brand new or after a fresh OS install (and after I’ve installed all my “pet” applications). Why? Because Eks Pee gets really ragged after a year or two and benefits from periodic reinstallations; if the OS has sh-t the bed, I prefer wiping the HDD and doing a clean reinstall.

    If you’re like me and don’t feel the need to keep a backup to rebuild the OS, and if security and/or compression aren’t a concern, there’s another native Eks Pee tool that can create sort of a mirror: xcopy. Its advantages are that it’s less complicated and can be faster (and you already own a copy). And it’s much simpler if you only want to restore a few files. The files are not bundled inside a backup file, they’re just written to a mirror image – you simply drill down into the mirror, pick out the files you want and copy them back to their original location. The biggest disadvantage to this method is it doesn’t back up open files, locked system files or the system state (ergo not a true backup). Depending on your needs, those can be show-stoppers.

    The syntax to back up data files from one disk (C:\) to another (T:\) would be like this:

    xcopy /d /z /v /r /e /y /h c:\ t:\

    /d tells it not to overwrite the target unless the source file has been changed (a time saver)
    /z tells it the transfer is occurring over the network so keep temp files in case a restart is needed
    /v tells it to verify the write (better data integrity but more time consuming)
    /r tells it it’s okay to overwrite read-only files
    /e tells it to recurse, even to empty directories
    /y tells it to overwrite destination files without prompting for confirmation
    /h tells it to get the hidden files, too

    These are the switches I use most commonly. Pull up a command line interface and enter “xcopy /?” to get more details.

    To backup just your “My Documents” folder would be something like this:

    xcopy /d /v /r /e /y c:\Documents and Settings\me t:\
    (because of the spaces in the directory name, on some systems you might need to enclose “Documents and Settings” in quotes)

    I’ve used xcopy and rsync (a *NIX utility ported for Win32; a sort of xcopy that’s network aware) to back up data used by web designers who didn’t have the domain credentials to run the a backup (or restore) application. “rsync” is blazing fast for network ‘backups’. You can get rsync for Win32 here (but I don't recall if this was the one I've used).