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Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by PocketProtector, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. PocketProtector

    PocketProtector

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    Sent my 1988 Gen. 2 G19 back to Smyrna yesterday for Warranty Upgrades.

    Tech said 2 week turnaround. Anyone know what the UPGRADES consist of?

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  2. voyager4520

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    I wouldn't send preban magazines back because they'd likely be replaced with new ones, and if you live in a state with a capacity limit those new magazines would be 10-rounders.

    They'll probably do the six part upgrade, you can read more about it here:
    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/upgrade-faq.html

    They'll likely also replace the slide lock spring, early slide lock springs were thinner and more prone to breaking than the new ones. Other than that they'll probably replace anything else that needs to be replaced for general wear and tear.
     

  3. PocketProtector

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    I will be pissed if they replace the magazine with a lower cap one.
     
  4. TheGlockTalker

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    I doubt they'll do that.
    You should be grandfathered in just like everybody else.
     
  5. MartinRiggs1987

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    As far as specifics, I'm not sure. With every generation, such swaps become more convoluted. I would imagine current Gen 3 standards. Lets us know, how it turns out.
     
  6. PocketProtector

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    Just got a call from Smyrna. They found a "crack" in the locking block of frame and are replacing with a Gen. 3 lower, along with new S/N.

    Not happy about it, not a fan of finger grooves at all.
    Removable?
     
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  7. jbglock

    jbglock Manos Arriba

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    Huh? The steel locking block comes out. I hate finger grooves also. Get them to clarify exactly what is cracked.
     
  8. JW1178

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    It probably cracked where the locking block meets the frame. That area takes a lot of stress because thats where most of the impact lands when the slide flies back.
     
  9. TattooedGlock

    TattooedGlock NRA LIFE MEMBER

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    Yep, pops right out.
     
  10. TattooedGlock

    TattooedGlock NRA LIFE MEMBER

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    As old as it is, I'd have kept it for sentimental reasons as is and just bought a new one. :)
     
  11. Paul53

    Paul53 All in all I'm just another brick in the wall.

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    You sent it to them for upgrades.
     
  12. PocketProtector

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    The upgrades were part of a no-recall recall back in early 90's. And I'd rather have a 100% G19 than a paperweight. Not liking finger Grooves though.
     
  13. voyager4520

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    The finger grooves are removable, you can do it yourself or send it to a custom shop for a more professional job.

    If the locking block cracked, that's replaceable and those old locking blocks are still made. However as JW said, the area around the locking block in the frame may crack particularly on older Glocks, and if there's a crack in the frame then it must be replaced. Newer Glocks have semicircle "relief cuts" molded into the frame at the rear of the locking block to stop those areas of the frame from cracking. Older frames didn't have those relief cuts, and I don't know if Glock still does it but they used to drill relief cuts into older frames. (that may be what they were about to do when they found the crack)

    In the picture below, you'll see what I believe is a Gen2 frame on top, there are no semicircle cut-outs in the frame at the rear of the locking block. On the bottom I believe is a Gen3 RTF2 frame, and on the upper portion at the rear of the locking block you can see one of those stress relieving semicircle cut-outs.
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  14. kgross71

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    That's what I am doing with mine, both the GEN 1 and 2.
     
  15. AJE

    AJE Grumpy Old Man

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    My gen 1 17 is never going back.
     
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    I wouldn't send it back either.
     
  17. SCC

    SCC just me

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    hell you are about to get a new gun back !!! all is well if it was me ...
     
  18. kgross71

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    If it's not broke it isn't going in, besides I have a good friend who is a Glock armorer. :supergrin:
     
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    Was this ever a big problem ? I dont think I have ever heard of it .
     
  20. PocketProtector

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    Just got a call from my FFL. The gun is back, 10 calendar days. That's pretty amazing. I'll pick it up tomorrow at 10 AM, shoot it and report back tomorrow.