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ATF to Reclassify Semi-Automatics and Large Capacity Mags?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by redbaron007, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. redbaron007

    redbaron007 Some Dude Lifetime Member

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    Question, Can they do it? Will they do it?

    Here is the link to the story.

    I believe this was theorized in 2010; however, reality may be a little closer.

    :wavey:

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  2. CitizenOfDreams

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    If they can declare a shoe lace a "machine gun", I would imagine they can do pretty much anything they want. What is there to stop them?
     

  3. Z71bill

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    Can do anything they want -

    I was talking with a dealer at a gun show - he said that the AFT has ruled that using your FFL at a gun show is an acceptable "EXTENSION" of the license - and it allows those with an FFL to sell guns at shows. All perfectly legal.

    But one stroke of the pen - the ATF could rule that it is NOT an acceptable extension of the license and - no more gun shows for FFL holders.

    How long will guns shows last if the FFL holders can't participate? :upeyes:

    Power is limited by some other force to stop it - what force can stop Obama and the AFT from changing the rules?
     
  4. redbaron007

    redbaron007 Some Dude Lifetime Member

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    This is my thoughts. If the ATF were to pursue this avenue, I'm curious as to what congress could do. I'm sure there could be some political maneuvering, but from a legal standpoint, how would it be countered. :dunno:

    :wavey:

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  5. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock Scouts Out CLM

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    Defund the ATF entirely. It's possible. Filibusters in the Senate and passing in the House. Refuse to pass any funding of any organization until the ATF is removed from the bill.
     
  6. Fear Night

    Fear Night NRA Life Member

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    I sure hope they would take action.

    Logically, if a new AWB could not pass through Congress, doesn't that tell Obama something? The American people don't want this garbage shoved down their throats.
     
  7. Gallium

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    The link is rife with pop ups.
     
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  8. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    The story looks like BS to me.

    NFA items are defined by statute I believe - 26 USC § 5845 and 18 USC § 921. They can further define within those statutory defintions, where things are unclear or not addressed, but they can't change the definitions.
     
  9. Wake_jumper

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    The "People" didn't want Obamacare either. We know how that turned out.
     
  10. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Why could it not? The democrats have control of the Senate and the White House and aren't too far behind in the House - let them convince a few New England Republicans to go along and they can easily do it.

    All Obama knows is that the American people reelected him, after he said he would do it, and they elected mostly democrat senators.

    (BTW, where is the outcry about that lesson conservatives taught the Republicans by staying home on election day? :upeyes:)
     
  11. Tango 1Zero

    Tango 1Zero Millennium Member

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    I could see something like this happening.
     
  12. Z71bill

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    :rofl:

    I guess it

    Depends on what the meaning of the word is is.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0"]Bill Clinton It Depends on what the meaning of the word is is - YouTube[/ame]

    EDITED TO ADD

    If you disagree with the definitions Obama wants to use then you will be labeled a RACIST.
     
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  13. redbaron007

    redbaron007 Some Dude Lifetime Member

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    If something would occur, I'd hope something could be accomplished on the back side.

    After your post, I went in and perused Title II. It is interesting if they choose to follow the path on how they will reclassify them. This is my reading for Title 2.


    :wavey:

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  14. JBnTX

    JBnTX 2 Timothy 2:15

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    The path of least resistance for the government is to just make firearms
    too expensive and too hard to get.

    That's a sneaky way of getting around the second amendment.
    Nothing is banned and gun owners can own all the guns they want.

    That is IF they can afford them, can find one, and are willing to do the paperwork to get one.

    Just like machineguns are now.


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  15. itstime

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    The election proved this also. "we" appararantly don't have enough numbers to matter anymore.
     
  16. Andy W

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    It would have to go to the courts.
     
  17. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

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    Well said.
     
  18. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

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    The power to tax is the power to destroy.
    A massive tax on ammo would accomplish this.
     
  19. dennis3dflyer

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    Theweetsweeper had to be turned in I think? What weapons firearms would be safe?



    Thanks Dennis
     
  20. P99er

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    Conservatives slept through the last two elections. I doubt Obama and the democrats want to wake them up.