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Bull pups FTW.
If you like that kind of trigger, sure. I've hemmed and hawed on something ambidextrous.
Bull pups FTW.
Ditto."Calm Down, the ATF Has Not Ruled That Your AR or AK Pistol is an NFA Regulated Item"
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/c...our-ar-or-ak-pistol-is-an-nfa-regulated-item/
Ten different brands. Yes they are in common use. Sold tens of thousands of them at leastYou can agree or disagree with it but you will pay a consequence if you want to test it. We would lose in SCOTUS over bump stocks IF congress passed a law on it as opposed to an EO or an administrative rule.
Remember Heller standard of in common use. Bump stocks aren’t in common use.
How did remaining calm work out for Bump Stock owners?"Calm Down, the ATF Has Not Ruled That Your AR or AK Pistol is an NFA Regulated Item"
Tens of thousands out of how many guns? We are having a hard enough time trying to convince the court the most popular rifle in America is in common use.Ten different brands. Yes they are in common use. Sold tens of thousands of them at least
That standard came from United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, and was referenced in Heller.Remember Heller standard of in common use. Bump stocks aren’t in common use.
Please note that machine guns and SBRs are more common than bump stocks or pistol braces. They are not considered common use by the courts.That standard came from United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, and was referenced in Heller.
The standard is just an opinion. Not set in concrete.That standard came from United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, and was referenced in Heller.
So is MA behind this ****?The good news on this the DACA ruling. It basically said they didn’t follow a procedure on rule changes therefore the change was constitutional. It applies to any future BATF ruling. There is also that case with the AG of Massachusetts changing the interpretation of the law being challenged. All should go in our favor .
Yes and no. It’s not the AG of Massachusetts but it is someone in BATF out of the Boston office who is .So is MA behind this ****?
There are about 150K Machine Guns civilian hands after 100 years of making them, there were over 500K bumps stocks, and none were over 10 years old.Please note that machine guns and SBRs are more common than bump stocks or pistol braces.
No court has ruled such and if they did it would be irrelevant. Bump stocks are not banned. I legally have one. The current challenge in the 10th is about authority to change a Final Rule.They are not considered common use by the courts.
Yup, that is what they are pursuing.I think the successful challenge will be on how the rule/law was made rather than on the 2nd admendment.
For the time being. Eventually they'll go after bullpups too.Bull pups FTW.
I agree with everything he said except that last sentence.While I don’t support it, this day was both obvious and inevitable. When you bought these things you knew it was precarious (or you should have).
If this goes to the Supreme Court I can only hope it fixes the whole thing, i.e. removes SBRs and certain “pistols” from NFA. I couldn’t care less about keeping this loophole alive.
Do not mistake how the Supreme Court operates. They don’t go after gov’t agencies who stop outside the law except as a response to some court case that has been filed and worked it’s way up thru the system. Even then the SC will only rule (perhaps) on the merits and legality of what is being argued in that case that is before them.I want NFA repealed, but I’m a Fudd? Face it.. You don’t like what you’re hearing but I say again, you knew, or should have known, that what the ATF giveth (via memo) can certainly be taken away. Well that’s today sport.
The only hope is that the Supreme Court can help and I say again, I want them to go after the NFA, not a loophole-by-memorandum.
Yes, I agree the ban should be overturned just on how it was in acted.There are about 150K Machine Guns civilian hands after 100 years of making them, there were over 500K bumps stocks, and none were over 10 years old.
No court has ruled such and if they did it would be irrelevant. Bump stocks are not banned. I legally have one. The current challenge in the 10th is about authority to change a Final Rule.
Yup, that is what they are pursuing.