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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Smashy, Nov 16, 2010.
So this whole thing got started because some Guns store noob tweeked the ATF requesting legal defination for a Mossberg cruiser
Here it effects age restriction in buying certain weapons. If you can buy a shotgun at 18 but cannot buy a pistol until your 21, guess what just happened. No more pistol grips until you can legally drink a beer.
I wonder how this is going to effect the Taurus Judge and other .410 pistols seems like they will be barking up that tree eventually.
What about my Howdah pistols?
The taurus judge is a pistol, not a shotgun, so why would it be affected? It has a rifled barrel and is sold as a pistol.
i think its because its not larger than .50 cal.
Better snatch 'em up whilst you can....
What about the price of gold?
Yet, at 18 yers of age, you can buy a shotgun with a full stock, take it home and put a pistol grip on it....
so... i suppose folks who own, say, a Benelli m1 super 90 such as this:
might potentially have to register it?
No, It has a stock that you put up to your shoulder when you fire it...
I'll never understand the rationale behind agencies and politicians who cry fowl at legal ownership of firearms. That's like getting upset at your dog for crapping in the backyard so you ban his food.
No, I think it is just referring to shotguns with just the pistol grip in the back, not pistol grip stock configuration.
I'm totally amazed that anyone could be stupid enough to think that a pistol grip in some way makes a shotgun any more lethal, or any more suited for use by criminals.
And as usual, law abiding people are the only ones in danger of having their shotguns taken away.
This law(?) is aimed at this type of pistol grip shotgun:
Well looks like I better get that Fabarms soon.
So would this apply to shotguns who had their factory buttstocks removed and had a pistol grip installed after purchase?
The impact is potentially significant;
Add that pistol grip; or your pre-existing pistol grip shotgun may now be an unregistered destructive device.
Uhhhh, No comment.
I have an old Mossberg 5?? Camper model 20 ga. I bought after a car load of drunks drove up my way-in-the-country driveway. It's a pump and comes with a pistol grip only. I bought it for a house gun... More maneuverable in tight hallways, etc. than with a full stock. I seriously do not believe it gives me a better spread or higher muzzle velocity, lol.
Dan in ABQ
THERE IS NOTHIN TO THIS. A pistol grip shotgun is NOT legally a shotgun or rifle. Therefore it cannot be sold by an FFL to anyone under 21. PERIOD. THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO THIS.
Someone click on the link and actually READ the ATF newsletter. The section about the pistol grip shotguns is to remind FFLs that they cannot sell them to those under 21.
Nothing is mentioned about destructive devices or anything else.
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No, it is not. ATF has not even suggested that