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as time passes do more businesses allow ccw?

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by huggytree, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. huggytree

    huggytree

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    here in WI i dont see many businesses posting 'no weapons' signs....but now ive seen a few

    i skipped going to PF Changs last week because they had a sign

    this is a post to the guys who live in states that have had ccw for a long time

    as time passes will more and more of these businesses change their minds and allow ccw???

    i will not spend my money at any business that has a no weapons sign unless its something i cant avoid
     
  2. Shadyscott69

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    I don't think they change their mind as much as they forget about the entire issue.
    When SC passed shall issue in the early 90's, pretty mush EVERYWHERE had the no CWP signs up.
    Now, you would have to look really hard to even find one of those signs. Much ado about nothing.
     

  3. Spartacus100

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    Thats what happened in here in Texas when it first came out. There were alot of signs saying no weapons..sings of every kind. Cardboard handmade signs with a gun with a circle and line drawn through it etc. over time most businesses took them down. i cant remember the last time i saw one of the state required signs. Texas eventually said if a store wanted to prohibit carrying a weapon in their establishment, they had to use the state issued no guns allowed sign. So between the required sign, and the fact that people realized we werent having running gun battles in the streets everyday, the signs seemed to disappear. Now, i never see them...i'll bet WI will follow...IMO anyways.
     
  4. vafish

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    I think some of them change their minds and some just forget to put up new signs.

    However don't expect PF Changs to change their mind or remove their sign. They've had signs up since their restaurant opened here in VA.

    And I've never eaten there.
     
  5. SJ 40

    SJ 40 Deplorable,Clinger

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    See that's what is great about living in Vermont,we have always had the option of concealed carry or open carry since 1777. In Vermont you don't see many anywhere and have to assume that any and every citizen is armed,it has worked since 1777. SJ 40
     
  6. failsafe

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    When Missouri first got the CCW, there were a few over anxious Mgr's that would post the no CCW sign..One that stands out is a national chain, CVS..
    It seemed to only be at the CVS store closest to me...I contacted corporate and asked for a written policy concerning lawfully licensed CCW's, carrying in their stores...Long story short, the signs came down..
    Voice your concerns to corporate..If the signs do not come down, tell them you will shop elsewhere..Vote with your wallet...:cool:
     
  7. HerrGlock

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    Ask to speak to the owner of the signed stores and tell them not only that you're shopping elsewhere but why.

    Tell them whatever their reasoning you're still going to spend your money elsewhere and don't get into a debate with them.

    I did that and then bought literally a thousand dollars of stuff that I was going to buy at a posted store. I went back and showed the manager the receipt of the sales he lost that day alone and I didn't see the sign in the window the next week.

    Be polite, be persistent but above all make sure they know they're losing business because of that sign. Why should they take it down if no one tells them it's losing them money?
     
  8. Glenn E. Meyer

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    Interesting little games in TX. A car dealership had a legit 30.06 sign by the entrance. It was big - as specified.

    The other day, it was replaced by a nonlegit one on computer paper. Hmm!

    So I asked a salesman why they had it - scared of legit Texans? He said he had no idea - sounded like a dodge.

    I see the legit signs on big medical installations - hospitals, etc.
     
  9. Lord

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    Used to be hospitals, churches and a few others were no carry zones by default, but then the law changed and now hospitals and other places are still mentioned in the law, but it says they must prominently display 30.06.
    I've seen the little card signs you're talking about. Specifically, I saw one at Taco cabana. It's smaller than a standard sheet of paper, and it's got the correct verbiage. It has black letters on a white background.... but the entire sign is about 4-6 inches tall... the letters themselves MAY be about a quarter inch high. My friend and I were going there for lunch and had a pretty brief debate on whether or not it applies to us... ultimately we ignored it.
     
  10. smokin762

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    When the CCW Law went into effect here in Ohio, I saw a lot of “No Firearms” signs go up where I live. It’s a pretty much a conservative area too, I didn’t see that one coming.:headscratch:

    Luckily, competing business did not put up the “No Firearms” signs. Some of the other stores eventually took the signs off the doors but some did not. I just don’t spend my money in those stores.

    My daughter lives with her mother. They live 45 miles away from me and it is a very liberal part of the state. To this day, I have not seen one “No Firearms” signs in any of the business’s windows there.:crazy:
     
  11. Goldenboy007

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    I dont go to Pf Changs because they serve overpriced faux Chinese food. now there is another reason to avoid the place.
     
  12. Glenn E. Meyer

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    Taco Cabanas around here ditched even those out of compliance signs.

    The local AAA office has a sign saying no Guns - except for CHLs. :supergrin:

    LGS - no loaded guns except that CHLs need to keep your gun concealed!
     
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    Yes, prevalence of signs is going down here in MN as time passes and people realize the sky isn't falling. Or polite gun owners speak to managers ;)
     
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    I have never seen a No Firearms sign at any business here in PA.
     
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    They do not have the force of law in PA, except in areas already prohibited by statute.
     
  16. mike1956

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    Actually, more have appeared here since the bar/restaurant carry ban was lifted. My favorite eatery, the Shovel Lounge in Marion just put up handwritten "no guns allowed" signs on the doors yesterday, after an unhappy incident Friday.
     
  17. huggytree

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    should i open the door and yell inside for the manager?? i cant go inside to tell him because im armed...

    im too lazy to turn it into a 15 min project....i dont want to go back to my car to disarm and then go inside just to tell them im not shopping there...then go back to the car to rearm and drive away.

    i think my wife was annoyed with me about the PF Changs ordeal...we were cold and very hungry....i refuse to give my money to anyone who wants me disarmed...
     
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    Then it will never change.
     
  19. smokin762

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    Their stand never changed in the first place. They just didn’t need to put a sign in the window because of how the CCW law was written. It was very clear.

    Before the law changed, those restaurants that served alcohol knew you were not allowed to CCW inside them and they knew you as a licensed CCW carrier knew you were not allowed to be armed in their establishment also.

    Now they have to show their hand. I will take my business elsewhere.:cool:
     
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  20. Jeffco

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    Huggy:

    I've had my Missouri CCP for five years or so and I don't see many signs anymore. I still see a few "non-compliant" signs which I promptly ignore if I need to need to go in store.