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I just picked up one of these and am wondering if it's possible to modify it to accept standard ak mags.
Arsenal 101-s question
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Anyone?
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It's an arsenal slr 101-s. The s is for single stack... I was wondering if I could grind out the well so standard mags would fit.
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I know you can, I can't give you much more direction than that. I have never attempted it myself.
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It works for the WASR so I imaging yours would be the same. There are TON of DIY's on you tube.
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Yeah I thought Arsenals were all converted?> nO/
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Well here are some pics of the rifle/mag. The receiver walls are thick, but I don't know...
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There are two "Arsenal"s. There is the one in NV USA, which assembles (convert isn't really the right word for what they do) Russian and Bulgarian AK-pattern rifles. There is also Arsenal in Bulgaria, which deals through Arsenal in the U.S. (and is the source of Arsenal in NV's SLR series AKs). The Bulgarian Arsenal also sold some direct Bulgarian rifles that count as "sporting" through the ATF. This is the what he has. It needs to have U.S. made parts added to it (like a conversion) and the magazine well may need cut out. He may also need to add a bullet guide. I don't know that much detail about them.
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Hmmm.. a ban-style milled Arsenal. WASR's are "ok" to hog out because they're cheap and extremely common Romanian stamped receiver rifles. Personally, I wouldn't start grinding on a Bulgarian milled receiver, you'd only hurt the value.
I'd sell the 101-S as-is. I imagine there are several CA, NJ, NY residents who'd be interested. Take the money and buy a newer, non-ban model; e.g. an SGL-21, (yes I know SGL's have new, Russian
stamped receivers, imo milled receivers have few if any advantages over stamped, and they're significantly heavier).
ymmv.
I'd sell the 101-S as-is. I imagine there are several CA, NJ, NY residents who'd be interested. Take the money and buy a newer, non-ban model; e.g. an SGL-21, (yes I know SGL's have new, Russian
stamped receivers, imo milled receivers have few if any advantages over stamped, and they're significantly heavier).ymmv.
Hmmm.. a ban-style milled Arsenal. WASR's are "ok" to hog out because they're cheap and extremely common Romanian stamped receiver rifles. Personally, I wouldn't start grinding on a Bulgarian milled receiver, you'd only hurt the value.
I'd sell the 101-S as-is. I imagine there are several CA, NJ, NY residents who'd be interested. Take the money and buy a newer, non-ban model; e.g. an SGL-21, (yes I know SGL's have new, Russian
ymmv.
Seeing as it has a beautiful milled receiver, I would send it to a competent AK-smith and have him do the conversions to make it 922R compliant and de-ban it.
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He could absolutely do that, but it seems like it'd be worth more, (to some buyers), as-is. He could sell it and then use that money to buy a rifle that never was ban-style, (whether stamped or milled).
I admit, I don't know the market for 101-S rifles, but they're not very common, and that usually translates to higher value. *shrug*
In the ban style, I've seen them go for less than a new SGL. That rifle would not be legal in CA without a bullet button (do they make those for an AK). So really, they're pretty worthless until at least something is done to them. Also, the model may be banned by name in CA (I don't live there so I don't really know).
Edit: All Arsenal SLRs are banned in California.
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Wayax thank you very much.
I am embarrassed to say, I expected you to degrade me and give a smart***** response and explanation.
I apologize heartily because you were knowledgeable, succinct, and at all times respectful... Pleae accept my thanks and sorry for pre-classifying your response, I am smarter now due to your post.
I am embarrassed to say, I expected you to degrade me and give a smart***** response and explanation.
I apologize heartily because you were knowledgeable, succinct, and at all times respectful... Pleae accept my thanks and sorry for pre-classifying your response, I am smarter now due to your post.
No problem. Just for clarification, his rifle does appear to be an import of an Arsenal Bulgaria by Arsenal Inc, (USA). So it's really both.
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Well regardless of it's rarity, it is a milled ak. If it's not worth enough to trade for a non ban milled ak I might as well try and make it something I want.
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Yep. If I were you, I might contact Jim Fuller's Rifle Dynamics, to have them "de-ban" it and widen the magwell, (as well as give it a nice refinish).
Actually, I'd probably still sell it, and put the $ toward a SGL rifle, but some have a love for milled receivers. I'll concede that they're more visually pleasing, but the AK-47 was designed to utilize a stamped receiver, and the Soviets only used milled receivers until they could perfect the production of stamped AK receivers.
To each his own, though.
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Well I've had stamped ak's I was excited to add a milled to my collection... I'm just looking to improve it.
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Answer = Fuller
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Well 5 days and no response to my e mails from jim fuller at rifle dynamics... If it takes that long to respond to an e mail I would hate to think what the turn around time would be. That said I did just drop it off at shooters world in phx az. They are doing the conversion for 150$ which seems reasonable.
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