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Army discharging mom who refused deployment

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by security79, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. security79

    security79 Gene Frenkle

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  2. MtBaldy

    MtBaldy Obie Wan, RIP

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    God help us if we ever have to fight a real war again. Our feminazi whipped PC dominated military will be lunch meat for a real First World opponent.
     

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    faawrenchbndr CLM

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    You think it's bad now?! Wait until the "Rainbow Warriors" come out of the closet!
    Thank God I'm retired!
     
  4. bennwj

    bennwj Command Sergeant Major (retired) Silver Member

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    Happens all the time.

    Soldiers who are single parents MUST (male or female) have a family care plan. It covers everything you could think of if you were going to leave your kids with somebody for a year.

    Failure to implement a family care plan within 90 days of meeting a the requirement for having one (single parent, divorced, BOTH parents in the military etc) will result in administrative separation.

    Why was she simply separated without a courts martial? Well, NOBODY can tell you who to care for your children. You have to have the plan.

    It is also just too easy to administratively separate somebody instead of going through a courts martial.
     
  5. bennwj

    bennwj Command Sergeant Major (retired) Silver Member

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    The initial charges filed against her were for missing movement. In my opinion they should have followed up on the courts martial for that.

    Hell, you can read between the lines and see she made up the issue with her mom not being able to be the child's care provider. The kid was over 90 days old, so she did (at one point) have a valid family care plan.
     
  6. eisman

    eisman ARGH! CLM

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    Not exactly no punishment...
     
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    They can't deploy a Soldier who doesn't have a family care plan, but it's optional for the commander to initiate administrative separation. If the command are happy to have the Soldier in Rear-D they can keep them around.

    I have processed several hundreds of administrative separations for lack of family care plan. I would bet money that at least 85% of them were phony (just an excuse to get out of deployment and/or the Army).
     
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    actionpup Psycho Pup!

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    Sounds like serious punishment to me. To lose any potential VA benefits is a big deal.
     
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    security79 Gene Frenkle

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    It is to a degree but missing movement/refusing to deploy is also a big deal. Especially, like bennwj said, since it seems to be for a phony reason. And correct me if I'm wrong but can't an administrative discharge be turned honorable after so much time.
     
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    If you don't want to fight for your country, don't, but also don't enlist either...that isn't right. (People joining up for the benefits...)
     
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    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    She got away easy.


    I'd have slammed her. Missed movement, pay, time in the brig, ect.
     
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    Line Rider

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    "You take the Queen's shilling: you goes the Queen's mile."

    She needs to go to the stockade and then to Afghanistan as a PV nothing.
     
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    That's how she got the first kid! :whistling:
     
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    DScottHewitt EMT-B

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    Plus, just about every job application now asks in the section about military service ,if your discharge was ANYTHING other than Honorable.
     
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    She only wanted a JOB, benefits and government security. When it came time to serve, in another country, a war zone... she simply walked away. :upeyes:

    Dishonorable discharge! :shame:
     
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    Oh no...can't be true...we have to have an Article 32 hearing for the 'rights of the accused', blah blah blah...:rofl:


    All silliness aside, simply discharging her was the best option, both for her and the Armed Forces. Why waste time and energy on anything more than filling out a few papers and calling it a day?
    She doesn't want to be there, I'm sure they don't want her there, either. Better for everyone.
     
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    you can really do this? really? my dad, who came back from Korea all screwed up, is turning over in his grave.
     
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    Its the best option for everyone involved.
     
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    flatag Must have tacos

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    Because now every other chicken sheet will try the same thing to get out of their deployment.
     
  20. Doc Holliday

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    They always do anyhow. Been going on since George Washingtons day, I'm sure. Why waste more time and money on this one? Besides, if you keep her around, she'll just &^%$# and moan about it, how's that for a morale-booster for the rest of the troops?
    Just cut out the cancer and get rid of it.