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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by hammerkill, May 1, 2012.
or a half baked one? What would you eliminate? SS, Medicare,drug laws,foreign aid?
Not really. I have somewhat strong libertarian leanings but the real world prevents me from being "absolute" or utopic about anything.
Not I. Right-leaning Libertarian.
And oh hell yes.
I'd cut the fedzilla down to defense, border and federal courts, let the states handle what ever nanny state BS their populations want, as long as they can pay for it without a fedzilla bailout.
Overall approach, cut government out of any voluntary interactions between adults, whether social or economic. If the action between the two parties are consenting, and don't involve coercion, fraud or a non-consenting third party, it's not the governments business to begin with, that's what courts are for.
you mean to say you would support stopping the money we throw at n.korea for their "poor"(military)??? how dare you
I'd eliminate all:
Federal programs the State could do better
State programs the County could do better
County programs that private industry and charities could do better.
I would ask congrefs to declare war, WHEN necessary.
I am not at all a libertarian. There is very little of their agenda that I would support.
I throw rocks at libertarians.
Where will the states get the money for those social programs?
That's their problem.
I'll agree to eliminating the drug laws, so long as I don't have to pay for your rehab.
Many social ills can be mitigated with the right economic policies. Don't subsidize bad behavior and make bad choices painful. People will change their behavior to avoid pain.
I get what you are saying.
But if the real world says it's ok to saddle debt on future workers to pay for obligations and services rendered now, that's ok, because it's the real world and I can't do anything about it is the stance you take?
Within reason, I'm a libertarian, but if it could be reasonably done, I'd eliminate all government. Since that is impossible (just creates a power vacuum for a new government to fill) I'd go with libertarian.
There is no law I'd object to eliminating - even though I've made my living from law since I was 21.
You are being myopic when it comes to issues and choices.
The world is a big place with lots of options, issues and solutions with the reality of each choice.
I've been libertarian since 1982 but not a hardline. I realize some parts of the government structure is now permanent and won't change in my lifetime. However it is nice to see more joining in whatever the depth of your conviction.
No, it's your problem if you live in that state.
Libertarians fail to think these things through to the conclusion.
They think if it looks good on paper and sounds good, then it must be good.
90% of their libertarian beliefs will never work in the real world.
If we take all the social programs away from Washington DC and pile them on the states, where do the states get the money to fund them?
Or do you just want to end welfare, social security, medicaid and medicare, and let old people starve and die?
You don't get it both ways, pick one.
as Penn Jillette says "When you're an Atheist-Libertarian, you'll always find someone at the party to piss off!"
He couldn't be any closer to the truth too.....
What happens when the thieves in Washington spend all the money so it isn't available for social security and medicaid?
What did people do for the many generations before these programs were forced upon us?