[warbow150]

I am far less an expert than many here. I am always seeking to learn and do not want to overstate my own credentials. I have carried Critical Duty for years because I was told by the store clerk it was good self defense ammo for my full size pistol. Further reading and it’s reputation by the FBI seems to support that it should be good for my self defense purposes. Have shot enough of it to know it cycles and hits point of aim. I keep an eye on the round that is chambered and rechambered and see no visible setback even after a long period of time and regularly converting the pistol to a dryfire safe condition or practice at the range. It seems the crimp is done in a way different than some other ammo and that helps reduce setback. I should use my calipers and see if any is detectable. I maybe shoot 3 rounds a year to check it out and keep an eye for any discoloration of the rounds in the carry mag. I have been using CCI Lawman for matches and cycle through my mags to make sure they are in good working order.

You’re good. Critical Duty is high quality, reliable ammo. It also happens to typically be very consistent.

 

[fredj338]

I am far less an expert than many here. I am always seeking to learn and do not want to overstate my own credentials. I have carried Critical Duty for years because I was told by the store clerk it was good self defense ammo for my full size pistol. Further reading and it’s reputation by the FBI seems to support that it should be good for my self defense purposes. Have shot enough of it to know it cycles and hits point of aim. I keep an eye on the round that is chambered and rechambered and see no visible setback even after a long period of time and regularly converting the pistol to a dryfire safe condition or practice at the range. It seems the crimp is done in a way different than some other ammo and that helps reduce setback. I should use my calipers and see if any is detectable. I maybe shoot 3 rounds a year to check it out and keep an eye for any discoloration of the rounds in the carry mag. I have been using CCI Lawman for matches and cycle through my mags to make sure they are in good working order.

You dont need calipers, just compare it to a fresh factory. When the rd is about 1/16” shorter, time to retire it.
Carry tip. I have carry mags & practice mags. My practice mags see the dirt a lot. My carry mags never hit the dirt or concrete.

 

[PEC-Memphis]

I warched the video. Did not see them leave their property ... [1] so the "advancing on people in the common area" was when/where? A "common area" in a gated HOA community does not mean it is public property or access. [2] It is community property owned by the community of which the couple were owners.

[3] Also, what was the overall context? What did protesters do in days preceding this incident? [4] What did these protesters do immediately prior to crashing the private property gate or afterward? Was there burning, looting or other property damage when the protest was on the public street that would lead someone to conclude "you are next" as they crashed the gate? (If it was a "peacefuI protest", I stand corrected.) [5] I heard reported there were firearms anong the protestors ... not sure if true. So in the context, was there reason to be fearful?

[6] The couple's actions made a statement. [7] They executed it stupidly as many posters have pointed out the gross mistakes and I agree. They paid the consequences of their actions with legal charges.

[7] But their place was not torched or vandalized with them in it. Who knows what the result would have been in the absence of action, [8] given the unlawful actions already taken by the crowd.

[1] The people were on the common area. I never stated that the McClusky's left their property. I guess that you could make the case that Mark McCloskey didn't advance, but it is pretty clear that Patricia McCloskey did. Both of them pointed the muzzle of the firearm in their possession at people who were in the common area. Patricia did so while advancing toward the people and with her finger on the trigger, Mark wasn't quite as stupid as his wife and remained within the curettage and did not have his finger on the trigger of the firearm (that I could determine).

[2] Your statement might be true, but probably not. In most cases common areas are owned by the HOA, almost always a separate legal entity from the homeowners. If you have some particular knowledge regarding Portland Place, please share.

[3] I don't know, and neither do you. More importantly, the McCloskey's didn't know at the time. Their actions, and if they were legal, has to be based on what the McClosky's knew at the time.

[4] As I stated before, the protestors didn't "crash" the gate to enter (if "crashing" means damaging/breaking down the gate to enter).

[5] The McCloskey's stated that there were firearms in the crowd. Although no one else claimed that there were; and the investigation did not indicate that anyone in the crowd had firearms.

[6] Yes, a statement of stupidity. So much so that the McCloskey's law licenses were suspended based on their poor judgement. Mark has been reinstated, however, Patricia is still under probation (as of 19 March 2023).

[7] Every indication is that the crowd was passing by their house, like they had passed several others, on their way to the mayor's house when the McCloskey's armed themselves and exited their home pointing the firearms at people in the crowd. Their (McCloskey's) actions can't be justified based on "what might have happened" only what would be reasonably believed to be immanent.

[8] The unlawful action(s) by the crowd was misdemeanor trespassing (not on the McCloskey's property). And every individual should (have been) cited and faced the consequences of the law.


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I never said that the crowd/protestors were legally justified to do what they did, but neither were the McCloskey's. As Fred said, you don't generally get to point a firearm at someone for mere trespassing, much less trespassing on someone else's property, in MO.

I think we can agree that there was plenty of stupidity to go around in this incident.