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Are the gun manufactures doing any thing to fight this ban

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Dalton Wayne, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. Dalton Wayne

    Dalton Wayne Epic mustache Millennium Member

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    Just wondering if they have lobbyist lined up ready for this fight? it seems they have the most to lose.
    If this goes through thousands of jobs are going away
    has any of them voiced opinions or are they staying silent
     
  2. 9jeeps

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    Like last time I believe they are letting the Shooters do the fighting while they rake in the profits. They can always move to another place off shore.
     

  3. jame

    jame I don't even know....what I'm doing here....

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    Midway USA and Dillon are both soliciting for the NRA. Ruger is active in NRA pursuits.

    Yeah, I think you can make bank on that.
     
  4. 1-2man

    1-2man Part Time

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    I've read on here multiple times that Glock doesn't really even care about the civilian market. If that's the case, why would they, in particular, care? :dunno:
     
  5. camelotkid

    camelotkid non-believer

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    Wilson combat is being very vocal on Facebook, they said they had to block Sarah Brady because she kept trolling
     
  6. 2bgop

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    I can assure you the NSSF is actively engaged. Plus, many of the companies are very supportive of the ILA.
     
  7. HalfHazzard

    HalfHazzard Señor Member

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    According to the anti-gun crowd, the manufacturers pay for the NRA.

    I imagine they're giving some funding to the NRA.


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  8. dango

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    Yes they are ! Working over time to get as many out there as possible before any potential ban is proposed that might affect us all !
     
  9. lunarspeak

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    with over 4 million members paying dues ....the NRA shouldnt need money from the gun manufactures
     
  10. 2bgop

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    You NEVER have enough money when fighting political fights.
     
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    Probably thinking about all the low cap mags they will sell.
     
  12. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    Some are some aren't. Some are for sale. If anyone remembers last time some of them sold us down the river as fast as they could. You would have to check with the one's your interested in.
     
  13. NorthernAlpine

    NorthernAlpine RLTW

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    There are shadowy figures of distinguished manufacturers and special interests groups that will be making plays that you or I will never know about. These men will make high-end lobbyists look like amateurs, and will most likely steady the hand of the anti-2nd'ers.

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  14. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    When this issue comes up, as it often does in some form, it needs to be understood, the gun industry is a very small industry. In most years Americans spends almost as much money on golf balls as they do guns...and that includes military and police sales. If the entire industry went away tomorrow, the economy wouldnt notice it much. To be blunt, it is, from a math and economic standpoint a pretty insignificant industry full of very small companies. Even if the handful of bigger gun companies are not very large.

    The gun makers are to small to have much power. It is a nothing industry. Your average gun company that is doing well has about as much economic impact as a guy who owns a successful HVAC company. The handful of large gun companies are about like a guy who owns all the car dealerships in town. Again, it is a nothing industry. No money, no size, no power.

    The good news is, GUN OWNERS have mega power. This really is a case of the state of the industry being very weak and the consumers having all the power.
     
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  15. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    The NRA's anual budget is about 220 million.

    The entire gun sales in the US, including military and police sales was around 1 billion until Obama, it may be 2 or 3 billion now.

    Anyways, the point is, if you took all the net profits from gun makers, ALL OF IT, it would probable be around the annual budget of the NRA. There are no significant profits to rake in.

    Take you favorite cottage AR company. Larue, Rock River, whatever, what do you think these companies make? Most of them are very small companies with a few employees. Lets say one of them makes 10 million gross with a 20% margin (real generous)

    So the owner makes 2 million a year (and how many of these companies are there? a dozen and most wont make that)

    So you have a handful of people who make a surgeons lifestyle. (we are not talking private jet money here) That is hardly enough to "change the world." with.

    I am, again, trying to get accross a point to people that there is not a lot of money or power in the gun industry.
     
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    I would hardly equate a 11 billion dollar a year industry with a small scale HVAC or car dealer. They may not be massive on a scale like GE, but they still have some power.
     
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    NorthernAlpine RLTW

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    Over 3,000,000 firearms sold in 2011, even at $300 each that's $3 billion +

    It may not be quite as much as the porn industry or video games, but it fuels several other industries.
     
  18. BEER

    BEER bad example

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    you're always touting "math this" and "math that". if "math" is so important and all encompassing then why would a man as educated as you choose law enforcement as a career field? you either have a death wish or you don't believe in "math" half as much as you claim.

    understand that i am biased, my father was shot and killed in the line of duty a week before i was born so i think any leo with family is an ******* from the get go.

    which do you love more, your duty, or your family? because if you start a family (which i believe you've stated you're trying to start) then you should quit the leo field and not make them worry every night.

    as a police officer your very job is to seek out and interject yourself in the situations that are most likely to get you harmed or killed.

    you and i have argued over your beliefs before about the difference between believing in science and having faith so that's a given, but this is a much more personal level and i just don't get it.

    where does your faith lie? in "math", in "faith", or in 'statistics"?

    what is the deciding factor that makes it ok to pick law enforcement as a career choice?
     
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    NorthernAlpine RLTW

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    eh....less trash talk, more topic
     
  20. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    It doesnt matter how you equate it, your average cottage gun company, and most of them fall into that category, is probably pretty similar in size/income to an HVAC company with several vans.