Are Homosexuals born or made?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Vic777, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. Navy1964

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    Don’t that I agree totally, but totally agree with your conclusion: None judge equally when “sin” is involved. Therefore, be careful not to judge, or at least judge carefully.

    Do I understand your position?
     
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    I’m pretty sure every last one of them was first made, and then born.
     

  3. G-nineteen

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    post #57 "should be locked up"
    post #59 "should be recognized with compassion"

    Great contrast.
     
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  5. Deltic

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    I think that these attitudes date back to at least the bronze age but there are different reasons for them. In the bronze age middle east there was armed conflict and having a smaller population could mean doom so there was pressure to get married and reproduce. Having say 3% of your population deciding not to be in a heterosexual breeding pair was a losing strategy.
    Adultery is an easier thing to figure out, it can cause bloody fights in a small community. Also if the chief of your tribe or village is boinking half of the women he might have a real problem getting all of the men to support him in a fight.
     
  6. Deltic

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    I think social pressure might influence a few people but most are very heterosexual. When I was a little kid and homosexuality was (in places) illegal and considered a mental disorder maybe two to three percent of people were LGBT. Now that Hollywood is trying to convinces us that all of the cool kids are doing it I doubt it is more than five percent. Most people really don't want to go that way.
     
  7. NoJoy

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    This is a great question for Mayor Pete.

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  8. OXMYX

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    Are democrats born screwed up or were they raised that way?
     
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    There are things that just don't always add up.

    Third trimester hormonal washes seems to be a current thought.... again. It would legitimize homosexuality.... but I'm also not totally convinced.

    What is being taught to grade school kids is a that "Suzie Has Two Mommies" or "Be A Boy Or A Girl, The Choice is Yours" is normal, even preferred.

    "Nurture or Nature" has long been a sacred cow, not to be messed with.....but stacking the deck with more Jokers or Queens is messing with biology.

    I believe however.... that it's inconsiderate to include homosexuality with transgenderism.

    The latter is a new cash cow for shrinks, surgeons and companies that build omnisexual bathrooms in schools and public buildings.

    Telling a 6 y/o that they should exercise their legal rights to choice, flies in the face of asking the mom if she wants a doctor to kill her just-delivered baby or not.

    It cannot be both ways.... still... there's something amiss here.
    Chemicals in breastmilk
    Phytoestrogens from legumes
    Spandex
    Late weening....
    Antiandrogens in beer
    Phenols in sperm
    Jockey shorts/speedos
    Lavender potions on male babies
    Gov't aerosol experiments at music venues
    Jet contrails
    Marijuana inhibiting the Y chromosome
    Withering feminism
    Feminazis
    Microwave ovens
    iPoo or Apple anything
    Windows Operating Systems....

    the hits go on........
     
  10. Intolerant

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    Deltic, i do have to agree with you some...
    Social pressure has quite a bit to do with it, BUT, it all starts at home with GOOD parenting skills. Parenting skills are lacking badly today. Parents are to busy to be bothered with their children today. Toss them a cell phone, see ya later. Most parents have no clue who their childrens friends are, let alone the friends parents. They are more concerned about their stupid careers, and got a have it now attitudes. Kid is ignored, kid gets all messed up in the head, parents take the kid to a doctor (an excuse for lack of parenting) and jack them all up on drugs, brain finally destroyed. There is so much in this world today that are messing up these kids. Parents, schools, doctors, peer pressure from friends, you name it, its out there. All respect is gone as well.

    This country has been for a long time, brought down by liberalism within the school systems. Liberalism is a destruction to the young minds. Liberals confuse the young... that is their poison being inflicted. Once its in the brain, its hell to get it back out, and some never survive it. When you`re subjected to it for so long, you start to believe its the right thing.

    There still is a chance that we can save this country, but after the democrats steal the whitehouse back again, all bets are off. They will have their indoctrinated youngsters vote them into power, 100% socialism after that. The ONLY fix to society today, is destroy the liberals and the leftist democrats.

    Anyhow, i know it and i get it, but the fix isnt going to be easy, and the liberals arent going to like it, but the train needs to be put back on the rails. God bless Trump for trying. And yes, i`ll be voting for him again!
     
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    His answer will be; "thats a great question" and then move onto something else. But he is sadly mistaken if he thinks this country will ever elect him. Luckily, i`m pretty old, and i`ll never see a Adam & Steve in the whitehouse. Thank You Jesus, there IS hope after-all!
     
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    When I read some of these posts I feel like a jumped into a time machine and went back 30+ years.
     
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    Archeologists only find male or female skeletons. Fact.
     
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    I would say it’s made up. If yer queer ya probably don’t bang chicks.
     
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    They are born, brain malformation.

    Society can make whatever it wants hence the increase in transgenerism. It's what the popular kids are doing.
     
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    FREEDOM in America does not care.
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    Perhaps, but I am not sure I understand your post.
     
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    Couple of points in this thread are absurd (for lack of a better term).
    1. The theory that if it was genetic, homosexuality would die out over time due to the inability to reproduce. Google genetic carrier. Many people carry the recessive gene for traits or diseases that they do not exhibit but pass on to their children.
    2. The use of math as an example that everything humans know is learned. Many aspects of being human are instinctive - fight or flight, self preservation, and the urge to mate itself. This comment really surprised me given the site we are on. The instinctive physical and mental reactions to a physical assault are well documented, and are touched on in most personal defense courses (including the NRA PPIH/PPOH courses). These are not learned, they are ingrained.

    Now for a real world example. A friend of mine had two sons. The first was very effeminate, to the point that family members commented on his behavior/mannerisms/speech before he started kindergarten. The second son was "all boy" (as his uncle put it). They are grown men today in their 30's. The younger son is married to a nice young lady, the firstborn son is openly gay and living with his boyfriend.

    When the firstborn son was in elementary school, his uncle made the comment that if he turned out gay, we'd know it is something you're born with. Not definitive proof, but it makes a strong case for it in my mind since I watched this unfold over the years with my own eyes. A sad footnote to this story. The father of these two boys was very anti-gay, and disowned his oldest son when he came out.
     
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    So if a man was running for President that was conservative, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-closed borders and anti-abortion you would not vote for him if he was gay?
     
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    Born.

    I have friends with gay children who grew up in the most loving stable and manly environments with hunting, cars you name it who everyone knew at 5 was gay. That isn't environment.

    And I don't care. As long as what you do doesn't involve kids or animals if your sex life involves jumper cables, a bunny costume or hot pokers...go for it.
     
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