Are Homosexuals born or made?

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  1. Vic777

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    If Homosexuals are 'made' by environment, that would explain why they exist. Instead, If some males are born homosexual, if there is a Homosexual gene, wouldn't they have disappeared long ago? If it is a gene that must be inherited, since they don't reproduce (as a rule) wouldn't they have become extinct? So Homosexuality must be a learned behaviour. What's wrong with this argument?
     
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    Homosexuality is ideology. People are manipulated into thinking one particular ideology is right and another is wrong. It is hard for people to get past their bias. It is becoming normal to think nothing of it. Who cares? Be gay, be strait, get over it.
     
  4. RichardB

    RichardB Matthew 25:31-46

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    Not genetic or Inherited. Just different hormones at puberty probably.

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    First, let me just say that I’ve seen no solid science to suggest that a “gay gene” exists, however; operating within the question that you posed, You’re assuming all gene abnormalities are inherited. Some genes abnormalities can be caused by random mutations. This would explain why a straight couple could have a gay child.

    I think the bigger question is why do you care whether it’s an inherent trait or a learned one?
     
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    fortunately I have never had to pay too much attention to this issue.
     
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    Well this is a loaded question
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    If you do not side with them
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    I know what I believe and know what is written in the Bible
    For everything is speculation as no one truly knows
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    Without real proof there will never be a end to this question
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    I always took “born” as just a misnomer for “didn’t choose” to be gay, whatever the reason.
     
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    DaleGribble Liberals 'R Bad!!!!

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    Equal rights for everyone, across the board, whether you're gay, straight, black, white, male, or female.
     
  10. Tojo

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    GOD said it is SIN. It is one's choice.
     
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    I have known a number who were clearly born that way. A cousin was horrified by boy toys, always wanted to be "the mommy" playing house and 35 years later he's married to a man.

    There may be a continuum and some may even choose.

    It matters not whether they are born that way or make it a choice. I think they should be free to live how they like with other consenting adults.

    Those who make a distinction in how legal, illegal, acceptable, etc... it is based on whether it's innate or a choice seem to miss the bigger picture about individual freedom.
     
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    All the time I spent in combat I didn't care what a person's sex interest, religion, color, political persuasion etc was. I only cared if they could do their job.
    Later in life I was in senior management for many years. I carried that same philosophy with me, and all my teams performed exactly to expectations.
    I still use that same mindset. I don't have to always like a person, I just want them to do their job to the best of their ability.
    All that matters is competency and integrity. Nothing else is my business.
     
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    clancy Oh, for a muse of fire

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    I have a friend I know who is gay, and we discussed this in depth one night at the bar. He says the thought of having sex with a woman is just as distasteful to him as it is to me thinking about sex with a man. He is just hard wired that way, as I am hard wired the way I am. Were it a choice, he certainly would not have taken a path that led him to being beaten up, to losing complete contact with his father, and actually being afraid to let some people know how he feels. I don't think for one minute it is a choice. There is just too much trauma that many gays have had to deal with to live that lifestyle by choice.

    Sure the Bible says homosexuality is a sin. It says the same thing about adultery, but I don't know anyone who committed adultery who was disowned by their family for doing so.
     
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    Gotta agree. For the record, I'm leaning toward "born" that way. I have very little info to go on, but the one thing I do have I think is a doozy - I don't remember ever "choosing" to be straight, so I have to assume the same goes for being gay. I get that you can absolutely choose your behavior, but can you really choose who you're attracted to? I think not.
     
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    The idea that homosexuality is a choice is just not valid to me
     
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    Seems to me not a choice - made (programmed) by genes or environment.
     
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    My MIL has a cat that's homosexual. It's homosexual tendencies became more pronounced after she had him repaired. We tried to tell her this would happen, but she simply refused to listen. You can tell the cat is homosexual by the way it meows. It's kinda high pitched and always ends with a lisp. Also, he always holds his tail straight up. He's a real pretty cat, but doesn't seem to like to kill mice, or fight with the other tomcats. I think in the cat's situation it's a mixture of nature and nurture. She said that even as a kitten it seemed to have strong "tendencies" indicating a nature component. Additionally, the poor cat was raised by my MIL with no strong masculine influence, as my FIL has been dead for a number of years, indicating a nurture component. I've always believed in live and let live.
     
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    I firmly believe you're born that way. I spent 24 years in the navy and spent many days at sea, I never had the desire, oh forgot to mention this was when only men and boys (I started at 17) went to sea, had no desire to, well you know what. When guys like Rock Hudson would prefer a man when he could of had many a fine women I think that settled it for me.

    PS: I have no ill will towards anyone, as long as they have no ill will towards me or my family
     
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