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AR pistol optic suggestion needed

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by mac66, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    AR pistol used as a pseudo SBR in a non-SBR state. This is carried on a concealed pistol permit and is a flat top. It has no BUIS. Currently has a cheap 1" tube red dot on it but looking for something better. Would like some thing with a 4 MOA or smaller dot, and good field of view and is durable enough to withstand banging around getting in an out of a vehicle frequently.

    Would like to keep the cost below $200 so no Eotech, Aimpoint or ACOG need apply.

    Open to tried and true suggestions. There are so many dot sights on the market that I am flummoxed trying to sort them all out.

    And BTW, it has a 11.5" HB and a fixed* carbine buffer tube. It is uber reliable and accurate.

    *fixed meaning a stock can't be put on it. It can however be fired from the shoulder with just the tube if needed.

    This is what I am talking about. It has a different tube and sight than in this old photo.

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  2. Matthew Courtney

    Matthew Courtney Instructor #298

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    Do you plan on shooting it in tight nose to charging handle or extended in a more typical handgun position?
     

  3. Matthew Courtney

    Matthew Courtney Instructor #298

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    OK the picture helps. Vortex Spark or Sig Sauer RDS.

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  4. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    Nose to charging handle. Don't need magnification. Range likely within 100 yards, mostly at night.
     
  5. WinterWizard

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    You are conceal carrying an AR pistol? Time to stop watching Rambo movies, bro.
     
  6. Matthew Courtney

    Matthew Courtney Instructor #298

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    I did not percieve it to be a concealed carry piece, rather to be used in a longarm role, yet handy enough to get in an out of a vehicle with. When I travel in states that disallow a loaded rifle in the passenger compartment, my AR Pistol fills the same niche, truck gun!
     
  7. Gunnut 45/454

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    Yep never could understand the purpose of this concept! Basically a spray and pray weapon. So you live where you can't have a SBR-Freaking MOVE!:faint:
     
  8. Armchair Commando

    Armchair Commando Long Range Guru

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    Time to stop judging people bro.

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  9. Cole125

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    Look into a Burris Fastfire II or III, very rugged reliable little red dots. Small and light too, would be perfect for a AR pistol.
     
  10. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    So who asked you? I only asked if anyone had a suggestion for an optic.
     
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    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    Really, that's your suggestion? How astute. Guess you missed the part where I asked for suggestions for an optic, not on anything else.

    Here's a suggestion for you. Start a thread discussing the merits of an AR pistol that can be fired accurately from the shoulder. I would be happy to contribute my experience.
    :wavey:
     
  12. Matthew Courtney

    Matthew Courtney Instructor #298

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    They can be fired accurately both from the shoulder and extended in two hands against a one point sling. In the role of a vehicle gun, they serve a niche that only a SBR or AOW can fill equally well.

    There is not a lot of public discussion about it and SBR's are popular right now, but folks should not knock things with which they are not familiar. That is a tactic of anti gun folks and we need not help out our enemies.
     
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    Armchair Commando Long Range Guru

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    Good post and very accurate.

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    LA_357SIG Milspectacular

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    I would agree except the one I had was defeated by a 10 year old. He hit the top of the housing on the bottom of a metal table at an indoor range and cracked the lens.
     
  16. JimBianchi

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    I am considering a 7.5in version of a similar pistol.

    The Vortex Sparc ($199) or the Primary Arms micro dot with a fixed base ($80, but out of stock) were the ones I was looking at.
     
  17. Gunnut 45/454

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    You ask for optic option for a weapon that can't be held properly to use an optic? Hold it one handed it's unsteady for accurate fire. Hold it like a shoulder fire weapon? No proper cheak weld? Like I said useless.
     
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    Fixed base Micros are in the US waiting for customs clearance. 2-3 days.
     
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    LA_357SIG Milspectacular

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    I had a 7.5" pistol (in 2007) with an EOTech 512 on it and managed to hit what I shot at with consistent success.

    ETA: Works best with single point sling. One hand. Two hands. Most fun you can have with your pants on. I wouldn't call it useless though.
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  20. Armchair Commando

    Armchair Commando Long Range Guru

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    I get a proper cheek weld on mine just fine. And you can easily fire them accurately. Only thing useless is your post.

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