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Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Evans9, Feb 5, 2010.
Anyone own one? Likes, dislikes, and general input welcome! Thinking about buying one.....
I have a rock river 9mm AR. It is awesome. I have won several three gun matches and carbine competitions with it. I run Promag polymer mags. They run flawlessly until the feed lips crack. I started with 8 and over the last 5,000rds have had 3 fail. Luckily they are cheap so once they fail I toss them.
I have a low serial # Colt. It shoots great but only likes factory mags. I am going to try some of the c-product mag to see how they work. They are a third of the price of Colt mags.
I have one I built from a Model 1 Sales kit a couple years ago. I don't know who made the components but it works great. I primarily use C-Products Mags in it but it also works with Pro-Mags. The Pro-Mags being plastic swell slightly when fully loaded making them a little harder to seat. It mostly get used as the rifle for my kids at 3-Gun. I run it some to burn 9 vs. .223. A lot of shooters use modified Uzi mags but I am happy with the c-products ones and they are not that expensive.
I think the mag block is RR but not certain. The bolt is Rock River.
I am going to do an SBR version when my tax stamp comes back.
I had a RRA 9mm. It took a while to get it running right. Basically I bought it for shooting side matches in the winter at the indoor range. But I sold it because we did not shoot many side matches and my 22lr AR build I did is way cheaper to shoot. The 9mm is a waste of time in the AR unless you have a very specific need like shooting at an indoor range for IDPA and USPSA side matches. I am surprised someone said they have shot three gun with their 9mm. They must have been close range matches.
I am a match director of 3-gun and the deepest bay I have that I can use is 50 yards so we can't do very far. I shrink the targets is about the best I can do. I mostly got it for the kids to shoot 3-gun with. It is less intimidating the .223 for a new shooter. Probably recoils more but the flash and concussion of 9mm is not far from .22 for new shooters.
I find that last comment a bit strange. The 9mm does in deed recoil more. And the noise with the .223 is nothing I have every seen intimidated new shooters personally. But then again I make all my students wear ear protection.
I don't know in my case the new shooter was my 10 year old son and 12 year old daughter and they seemed to be reluctant to pick up the .223. Since then my daughter has no problem with the .223 my son has not asked to shoot it yet at a match. Whatever gets them in the match comfortably works for me. My daughter is at 20 Gauge, .223, and 9mm G17. She is asking to try the G35.
I just recently built up a 9mm carbine using a LWD 9G lower receiver (dedicated for Glock mags) and a Spike's Tactical top end. I absolutely love it. It runs great, fun and cheap(er) to shoot. Can't go wrong with a 9mm carbine that takes Glock mags. Until Lone Wolf comes out with complete carbines in different calibers, I may buy one of the new RRA .40 S&W top ends to use with my 9G receiver. I would be able to use G17,18 or 19 mags with my 9mm top end and use G22 mags with the .40. Win-win situation.
Don't try the C products they suck. When I got rid of mine the gun worked a lot better.
I have always loved the AR platform in 9mm but of course, thanks to kommiefornistan's laws, I may be severely limited in my abilities to get one.
9mm ARs do exist over there, I think. I have one coming from out that way in trade.
AR, AK and all sorts of rifles exist in California, but I don't consider them real carbines.
You get your choice, either fix the magazine in place and have a pistol grip or use a Monster Man grip and have detachable 10 round magazines. It's disgusting and it's not a real AR.
No grandfather clause out there?
Love my RRA 9mm! CP mags work well for round nose ammo, but so much with HPs. Uzi mags have longer feed lips, that help with feeding shorter HP rounds. I've modded up my own Uzi mags, to match the factory mag, and it shoots all ammo without a hitch. 9mms have their place in Law Enforcement, MP5s are pretty common here in Michigan, great platform that wont break the bank(As bad) The recoil is harder than its .223 brother, which supprised me.
I'm not against a 9MM AR for plinking and money saving, although they can be tricky to get running right. For the sake of friendly debate w/o any personal attacks or name calling, I disagree with JDG about the 9MM having a place in law enforcement. I'd like to hear your point of view on it. I can't think of a single time I would grab an MP5 or 9MM AR over my standard 5.56 carbine. Maybe if you needed it suppressed but that's hardly a typical law enforcement situation-Norcal911
I've been thinking about switching to this lower. You are the first one I've heard review it. I really want to use my Glock mags but am hesitant to switch out a gun that runs perfect.
Yes, there is.
You need to have your preban weapons registered prior to Dec. 2000 for AK weapons and Jan. 2001 for AR weapons. To be realistic, between the 1989 (first CA AW ban) and the 1994 (federal AW ban), there weren't too many weapons left floating around to be bought in the late 90s for people to grandfather. You also have to register the weapons with the State Attorney General for $20 each.
All regular capacity magazines also had to be owned prior to 2000. However, since 1994, regular capacity magazines have been running on a limited supply anyway since no new ones can be made or sold in CA so people were buying up a limited existing supply. I've seen 1 Glock magazine go for $75!
Even with all this, I have not seen CA become safer. Guess the criminals don't really care nor are they affected by the no flash hider, fixed 10 round magazine rules.
Tell that to the DEA CLET who had standard issue 9mm Colts carbines.
Not sure why, thinking the 9mm has better glass penatration, less fragmentation shooting into cars. I pick up a ton of HK fired 9mm brass, our Boys practice with them alot.