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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by mixflip, Jun 5, 2012.
Im thinking about taking a handgun course from them? Any feed back from GT members?
I like to know too.
I had a week long class there, shooting AK's and Glock 9's. I had a good time. Everyone was pretty serious, except me.
I ended up getting yelled at for acting like I was on vacation. I said, "I am on vacation!"
its alright! Prefer Thunder Ranch, Texas..............yeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
So, I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
Isn't it in Oregon or Washington, or one of those granola states now?
Just be sure you know what you're signing up for.
I once took a class (I won't say where, but it wasn't with Gun Site) that was described as a defensive pistol class.
The instructors were all IPSC guys and I felt like we spent more time on "competition" skills than anything else. I realize the skills are translatable to defensive needs, but it wasn't what I expected.
So true, so true.
I've seen videos of various trainings conducted by the high-speed-low-drag commando types with great combat credentials and I asked myself, "WTF, over?"
You think that lil' lady or the fat old guy is going to "close with to point blank range" and shoot at somebody? Or going to be rolling around doing sommersaults on the ground?
Just got back from Gunsite 250 defensive pistol course. Loved it and learned a lot, but, the previous post about these instructors being "serious" is absolutely true.
The range officer while I was there was ex-military (25 years) and did 5 years with Blackstar after that. Great guy, great instructor but there was NO f***ing around.
It's serious defensive stuff they're teaching, and they push you on speed and accuracy. Guy in my group shot himself in the leg while re-holstering, had to be "lifeflighted" out. Was told the same thing happened the week before.
When I tell you they push you, I mean it.
The Tactical stuff outside and in the "funhouse" was cool - hard, and I strongly believe essential for self defense. Those tactical courses can be seen on YouTube.
I met some GREAT guys in the class, had tons of fun and am going back in October.
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You can be serious without having to be "serious".
I told those people when I went through that they're training me how to do self-defense/combat shooting, but they are not training me to be a soldier. Uncle Sam did it a long time ago.
I went a while ago. Just to see what all the hubbub was about.
It was ok. Not really worth the money.
Just curious but what gun did the guy shoot himself with?
We recently got the word (form the director of DPS) that we can no longer carry 1911's due to an officer shooting himself in the leg as he reholstered.
Yes I know its not the guns fault. But the brass no longer likes the idea of locked & cocked. So we are screwed out of carrying 1911's now.
I've been involved in police and civilian firearms instruction for around 35 years. Too often, very experienced instructors forget their basic function, ensuring that their students are trained to a level that is both practical and task related. I'm not "against" taking training at these various training venues. Indeed, I'm sure you'll come away with additional skills and information that will be of value. None the less, you have to ask yourself, what are my real needs and what tools and tactics will most help me meet these needs.
My 2 cents...
If they've had two people shoot themselves in 2 weeks, I would REALLY look hard at what they're doing, because they've screwed something up.
Gunsite is NOTHING like it was under the leadership of Jeff Cooper.
If I'm going to a shooting class I'm going to try to have fun. If I got yelled at for having a good time and joking around I'd be pissed. Taking a week off and paying tons of money better net me something fun.
Why do you prefer Thunder Ranch?
What does an officer shooting himself in the leg have anything to do with the pistol being a 1911 design?
The 1911 "design" is a single action pistol that will go off if you don't take care to keep your finger away from the trigger during a re-holster. It can happen with other "designs" also, but it is more common with single action only triggers.
Really? 'Cause when I holster my 1911, the safety is on, so even if a piece of clothing should accidentally get into the trigger guard, nothings going to go "bang". I always worried about that with my Glock.