I guess i am old fashioned but I still carry a semi automatic pistol without a red dot. Just wondering if any others are doing the same. I did put one on my HK VP9 recently along with the long slide conversion kit. I kind of like it for range shooting but no plans for one on a carry gun. Heck I still carry my unmodified Gen 2 Glock 19 other than having a Grip Force adapter at the back of the grip. Not trying to create discussion about pros/cons of red dot on carry pistol but comments welcome, just wondering about how many are vs are not. I typically conceal carry my Gen 2 Glock 19 or original Walther PPS IWB in a single clip kydex holster. Less often I carry my HK P30SK.