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Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Maxthemutt, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. Maxthemutt

    Maxthemutt

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    I have an athlon 1gig, 384ram, 45gig hd computer that I'm not sure what to do with. I just upgraded and the girlfriend is happy with her old 600mhz IBM. I was thinking about getting a 9600xt all in wonder vid card and installing either win98 or buying win XP and using it like a Tivo that I could game on. Either that or possibly setting it up as a server. Not really sure what I would do with that though. I also have an old 200mhz IBM that pretty much just an internet computer right now. I've thought about trying Linux and have another HP 233 that I was going to use for it but what do you do with it?

    Thanks, any suggestions would be appreciated, Max :)
     
  2. saber41

    saber41 Guest

    For the 1GB Athlon, you could always set up a server or use it as a test box to try out different distros and such.

    For the 200, you might want to make that into a router/firewall box.

    I have a router set up on an old Pentium 166 running IPCop (which is based on Smoothwall), it works great !!

    Get IPCop here:
    http://www.ipcop.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/IPCop/WebHome

    If you are still having difficulty trying to figure out what to do with the 1GB machine, you could always box it up and send it to me....I promise to give it a good home !! ;f ;f
     

  3. Maxthemutt

    Maxthemutt

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    I've heard about smoothwall but I already have a router, wouldn't that be redundant?

    While appreciate your offer to take the 1gig off my hands, the shipping and handling would kill me. ;) ;c
     
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    plato softie

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    I have an old Pentium one, 133Mhz with a two gig hard drive and 40 MB of RAM sitting in a closet.

    Haha!

    I would like to get some of my old MS Word documents off that thing.





    :soap:
     
  5. nothingness

    nothingness singularitarian

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    Put an NVIDIA Vid card in it, and add some ram, and it would make a screaming game machine

    the 200mhz IBM, could be a print server, firewall, remote dialup (dial in) account etc.

    Always good to have a better firewall


    or just donate it to me.. I need it!
     
  6. Maxthemutt

    Maxthemutt

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    I've thought about installing a 9600XT card and using it for gaming, but that's pretty much what the new one is for.

    For the 200mhz, does a print server just print for the other puters on the network? I have two printers and only two computers on the network now to print from.

    I have thought about using one of the old ones for a firewall, but with a Linksys router why would I need one?

    As far as the donation, see above.

    :)
     
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    Install video capture board and the software of your choice and bingo.. instant TIVO workalike unit.
     
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    HerrGlock Scouts Out CLM

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    Firewall
    Data storage
    Home directories
    internal web server
    Router
    Web server
    test server

    DanH
     
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    My son and I take old computer equipment out back and shoot them with various high powered firearms.
     
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    you could give it to orphanage or something or to local remote library.

    using that computer as a firewall, it would've been a cost inefective in energy usage. never understood that one.
     
  12. WillWorkForAmmo

    WillWorkForAmmo Slim...

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    Read my mind.^c
     
  13. Maxthemutt

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    While I've thought about that many times with the 1gig since it currently has Win ME on it, I'd like to excercise some restraint and do something productive with it.
     
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    You said Win ME and productive both in the same sentance.

    The 1 gig machine would make a great Linux box. If your new at it, try Xandros, if you have played some , try the new Suse 9.1 Pro. Both are great, user friendly distros.

    What type of Video card do you have in it now? NVIDIA works best with Linux, ATI is a little trickier in some distros. I have an OCE copy of Xandros I could burn and send your way, Pro-Gratis of course, or you could download the ISO and burn it yourself if you have broadband.
     
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    You could donate it to me. I'm using a p3/550 with 384 mismatched RAM and a 36 gig dying SCSI drive...8x almost dead SCSI burner.

    Yes, I program/fix/admin computers...except my own :)

    FYI, I use ClarkConnect (clarkconnect.org) for the old firewall I had here (p2/233 with 32 ram and 2 gig drive). I've since got a wireless Linksys router and put that old firewall in at the office on the Communistcast network.
     
  16. Maxthemutt

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    Saidly I never knew how bad ME has until I started using my new puter with XP Pro. ME was ok at first and steadily got worse over time. Right now it has a Nvidia TNT Rivia card. Pretty old. With ME it never accepted anything better for gaming, one of the reasons I upgraded. I appreciate the offer for the Linux Xandros copy, but all I know about Linux is it's
    an open source operating system. What do you do with Linux?
     
  17. nothingness

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    Here is a few reasons why you might use it as a firewall:

    ;R

    Honeyd is a small daemon that creates virtual hosts on a network. The hosts can be configured to run arbitrary services, and their personality can be adapted so that they appear to be running certain operating systems. Honeyd enables a single host to claim multiple addresses - I have tested up to 65536 - on a LAN for network simulation. Honeyd improves cyber security by providing mechanisms for threat detection and assessment. It also deters adversaries by hiding real systems in the middle of virtual systems.

    ;R

    http://voodoo.somoslopeor.com/papers/nmap.html
    A practical approach for defeating Nmap OS-Fingerprinting
    Remote OS Fingerprinting is becoming more and more important, not only for security pen-testers,but for the black-hat. Just because Nmap is getting popularity as the tool for guessing which OS is running in a remote system, some security tools have been developed to fake Nmap in its OS Fingerprinting purpose. This paper describes different solutions to defeat Nmap and behave like another chosen operating system, as well as a demonstration on how can be accomplished.


    ;R

    Reasons to hide your ROUTER OS to the entire world

    Perhaps you are wondering why do you want to spend your precious time changing your Linux kernel to hide your real OS version against Nmap 'bad purposes' users. Maybe the following reasons can convince you:

    *

    Revealing your OS makes things easier to find and successfully run an exploit against any of your devices.
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    Having and unpatched or antique OS version is not very convenient for your company prestige. Imagine that your company is a bank and some users notice that you are running an unpatched box. They won't trust you any longer! In addition, these kind of 'bad' news are always sent to the public opinion.
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    Knowing your OS can also become more dangerous, because people can guess which applications are you running in that OS (data inference). For example if your system is a MS Windows, and you are running a database, it's highly likely that you are running MS-SQL.
    *

    It could be convenient for other software companies, to offer you a new OS environment (because they know which you are running).
    *

    And finally, privacy; nobody needs to know the systems you've got running.

    heres what mine says.. like it matters..

    Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-07-07 20:19 PDT
    WARNING: RST from port 21 -- is this port really open?
    WARNING: RST from port 21 -- is this port really open?
    Interesting ports on 192.168.0.1:
    (The 1656 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
    PORT STATE SERVICE
    21/tcp open ftp
    23/tcp open telnet
    80/tcp open http
    Device type: broadband router
    Running: Zyxel ZyNOS, Intel embedded
    OS details: Zyxel ZyNOS based broadband router (ZyNOS) or Intel Express ISDN router


    what CANT you do?
     
  18. Maxthemutt

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    So If I do a smoothwall firewall It going infront of my router?
     
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    You could do it that way, or use the linux boxen as a router/firewall/honeypot/printserver
     
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    I mess with computers for a living, so I tend to load wierd stuff just to try it out, but unless you are into that sort of thing, a commercial hardware firewall (kept up to date) is probably easier to deal with.

    So do some sort of TIVO project or find someone (or some group) that can use a running computer and give the computers away (wipe the drive first!)