Any MOS non-Glocks

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  1. ithaca_deerslayer

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    I've been thinking about a MOS Glock or a rail revolver, for an optic. But are there also other MOS type semi-autos out there factory set up to easily mount a low profile optic?

    Or is Glock the only one cutting their slides like that?
     
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    SIG and S&W come immediately to mind:

    https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p320-rx-full-size.html

    https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/performance-center-mp-9l-pro-series-core


    Some others (will add more as I come across them):

    https://www.springfield-armory.com/products/xdm-4-5-osp-full-size-9mm/

    https://fnamerica.com/products/pistols/fnx-45-tactical/

    http://www.beretta.com/en-us/apx-combat/



    A brief article on the subject from a couple of years ago:
    https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...eady-handguns-and-mini-reflex-sight-round-up/


    Finally, if you already have a Glock, you can get aftermarket slides (in certain calibers) already cut for a low-mounted optic, then just swap slides to add the optic to your existing pistol.

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    Hmm, this may be an obvious approach! Now I have to find lnks for places that sell these cut Glock slides!

    I have a Gen4 17 that is just a gaming/range gun. Getting an separate optic slide for that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the idea :)

    Of course, I'm still going to check out those other brand factory guns to see if any of them whisper sweet things to me.
     
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    I've shot a buddy's S&W, and handled one of the SIGs, and I think they're both pretty usable.

    I'd been toying with the idea of getting a slide for one of my Glocks, but I didn't want to dive in right away, so I went with a rear sight dovetail mount for one of my RMRs, just to see if I liked the concept. I do, so I'll probably be shopping for a slide myself, one of these days, or perhaps having a factory Glock slide machined for a particular sight. This is the temporary dovetail version:

    G17ODwithRMR.jpg
     
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    Check Brownells website for some aftermarket slide options.
     
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    Ill never go back irons once you get used to the red dot shots beyond 25 yards are MUCH easier you won't regret it,a red.dot more precise and a lot less work vs irons
     
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    I agree, but the cost for a good one is like buying another gun to bolt onto your current gun.

    And now that I think about it, the aftermarket slides aren't all that cheap, either.
     
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    How many guns do you have that are almost exactly the same lol sell one and invest in yourself,I quit buying guns with micro differences and buy ammo now,best thing I ever did
     
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    Sell guns that are similar? That's crazy talk! All mine have HUGE differences...

    G17Gens2018b.jpg
     
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    I just checked this link, for starters:
    https://suarezinternational.com/

    I can buy a slide for my G4 17, tricked out with the internals, new barrel, recoil spring, plus a Trijicon rmr and co-witnessed sights, all installed, for $1300.

    Just as a starting point, that is worth considering, as the top end for my purposes.

    I'll next compare that to buying a new gun that is MOS ready, and adding a red dot of choice, and see what the cost difference is, and the pluses/minuses.
     
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    I’m seeing more and more non-MOS Glocks with optics or cutout slides.

    It would be interesting to have a 1911 with an RMR.

    I think it’s an advantage for long distances, 25 yards and out. For 15 yards and in the reflex doesn’t come into play.

    I have a 34 and 19 with reflex sights, and my FN 5.7 has one, too.


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    There's an idea for me, too. I only have one 1911.

    Wonder if there is a good cut factory 1911, for a low profile red dot. I'm not much of a 1911 person, but this would be a reason to think about one. I already have .45ACP, so it's not a new caliber. I can buy reloading dies for it. And, I think, have always pondered, that the .45 ACP with a good bullet could be an effective Whitetail round at reasonable distances.

    To that last part, about hunting, 10mm MOS seems obvious. I dunno, not sure I want a new caliber for this. But have to think about.
     
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    My brother has taken deer at close range with a .45 ACP, but at longer distances, the looping trajectory and lower energy come into play. That combo means longer shots are marginal energy-wise, and the drop makes good placement problematic.

    Say, do you have any newer medium- or large-frame S&W revolvers in larger calibers? Most of these made in the last 10-15 years or so were drilled and tapped under the adjustable rear sight, which allows you to mount a short rail section for using a red dot sight. It was for primarily a setup for handgun hunters, but now target shooters are using them for dot sights. If you have one, you don't have to to pull the sight to check for holes; just open the cylinder, roll the handgun over, and look at the bottom of the top-strap; if they are there, you should see the holes, as they go all the way through. Here's my decade-old S&W 617 wearing a cheap-o dot sight:

    SW617wRedDotSight.jpg
     
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    There are a few others, but an MOS is not a "low profile optic". If you want a lower profile (or just a good dot gun) get a slide milled.
     
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    It really depends on how well you can use irons. Without a properly tuned comp, a dot isn't that big of a deal. You just need to have good mechanics and vision.
     
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    Zev Technology has cut slides.
     
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    Kimber offers a model cut for optics. Hell, I think that it comes with premounted red dot and may even be in 10mm. Yep, I’m right.

    https://www.kimberamerica.com/super-jagare
     
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    Yes, thanks. I have a 686 like that. I could mount an optic on that too. There are a few revolver mount companies, such as:
    https://www.jackweigand.com

    So that's a possibility :)
     
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    Can you say what the difference is between how low a Glock MOS factory cut slide is vs a milled cut slide you are refering to?