Anti-whaling activist 'boards Japanese ship'
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think the japanese should fire that harpoon into fattys wheel house and destroy all that equipment they have...wont be going far if the controls are screwed
I wondered this myself. What exactly do whales do to not be killed?
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Regarding the "stop the whaling" comments -
The Japanese follow established laws and rules when whaling. That's all we (anyone else on the planet being "we") need to worry about.
The Sea Shepherd morons, on the other hand, violate numerous laws. And people still support them. Let's play a game here: Pretend that the Sea Shepherds are now people from the Brady Bunch (Violence Prevention Center), the mortal enemy of a gun owner.
Now, pretend that they stand outside of your local gun range, and throw rancid butter on you, when you are trying to go shoot your gun. They follow you home, and vandalize your property, because you own a gun. They constantly harass you at home, at work, and whereever you go, simply because they don't agree with you carrying/shooting a gun in a legal fashion.
How many supporters of these actions are there on this board? None, I'd hope. Well, the whalers aren't doing anything illegal. Nothing. It's as simple as that. The whales they hunt aren't endangered, and the Japanese follow bag limits and hunting seasons. So, why the support on this board? You folks supporting them are just like the PETA members who try to disrupt hunters in the field or fishing on the water. If you don't agree with it, try to change it legally. Don't commit other crimes - kinda like abortion clinic bombings. Not to get into that debate, but blowing things up isn't the way to stop the activity. Use legal means to do it.
Now, to address the current claims of the idiots at sea: First off, I really don't believe they managed to sneak someone on board. With all of the harassment they do of the Japanese, I'm inclined to believe that security onboard is VERY tight, and that boarders would be met with some rather unpleasant responses from the crew.
Second - IF they did manage to get someone on board, I hope he disappears. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya. Their actions meet the definition of piracy. Pirates should be discouraged in a rather quick, bloody manner; this might help prevent any further pirate action against a particular vessel.
The Japanese follow established laws and rules when whaling. That's all we (anyone else on the planet being "we") need to worry about.
The Sea Shepherd morons, on the other hand, violate numerous laws. And people still support them. Let's play a game here: Pretend that the Sea Shepherds are now people from the Brady Bunch (Violence Prevention Center), the mortal enemy of a gun owner.
Now, pretend that they stand outside of your local gun range, and throw rancid butter on you, when you are trying to go shoot your gun. They follow you home, and vandalize your property, because you own a gun. They constantly harass you at home, at work, and whereever you go, simply because they don't agree with you carrying/shooting a gun in a legal fashion.
How many supporters of these actions are there on this board? None, I'd hope. Well, the whalers aren't doing anything illegal. Nothing. It's as simple as that. The whales they hunt aren't endangered, and the Japanese follow bag limits and hunting seasons. So, why the support on this board? You folks supporting them are just like the PETA members who try to disrupt hunters in the field or fishing on the water. If you don't agree with it, try to change it legally. Don't commit other crimes - kinda like abortion clinic bombings. Not to get into that debate, but blowing things up isn't the way to stop the activity. Use legal means to do it.
Now, to address the current claims of the idiots at sea: First off, I really don't believe they managed to sneak someone on board. With all of the harassment they do of the Japanese, I'm inclined to believe that security onboard is VERY tight, and that boarders would be met with some rather unpleasant responses from the crew.
Second - IF they did manage to get someone on board, I hope he disappears. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya. Their actions meet the definition of piracy. Pirates should be discouraged in a rather quick, bloody manner; this might help prevent any further pirate action against a particular vessel.
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Sweet.
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Well thank god I'm not one of those guys! (if you read my last post) Its definately piracy in my eyes and think the Japanese should retaliate some how. I always hear about the tree huggers doing thier thing but the Japs just hang in there with balls of steel and keep on truckin....I hope the Sea Shepherd gets sunk
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BAM! You hit the nail right on the head! Couldn't have been better spoken! :wavey:
I know its morbid, but I hope the people who try and board the ship get straight up KILLED. Send a clear message that will be heard around the world- Piracy will not be tolerated.
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That's awesome. So he climbs aboard in the dead of night in a much-publicized, daring, eco-terrorist commando raid...and then immediately submits (and likely craps himself) when confronted, and asks for medical assistance with a booboo from his midnight climbing.
These guys are a hoot. I can't imagine why they're not being taken seriously!
These guys are a hoot. I can't imagine why they're not being taken seriously!
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3 words- SHOOT ON SIGHT
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I think he's playing reality TV, and attempting to focus world attention on the conflict. I don't agree with his thesis nor his tactics, but compensation for the sunken boat isn't likely without a major buzz, and him trying to create one is expeditious but not abnormal.
I'd really rather the Japanese DIDN'T kill whales, but as long as they're playing by international rules, there's no legal argument that works. I'd really like to have sympathy for the whale-huggers, but I like the whales better than them. They seem ineffectual, peurile, sophmoric, and too willing to escalate conflict. I think they'll get somebody hurt or killed. The japanese who are whaling are trying to make a living, and seem to be sane if not culturally identical. Greenpeace should register a claim at the Hague or something, and avoid conflict to the degree possible. They're not good at it.
I'd really rather the Japanese DIDN'T kill whales, but as long as they're playing by international rules, there's no legal argument that works. I'd really like to have sympathy for the whale-huggers, but I like the whales better than them. They seem ineffectual, peurile, sophmoric, and too willing to escalate conflict. I think they'll get somebody hurt or killed. The japanese who are whaling are trying to make a living, and seem to be sane if not culturally identical. Greenpeace should register a claim at the Hague or something, and avoid conflict to the degree possible. They're not good at it.
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He's probably got a transmitter implanted in his body so the his fellow ecoterrorists can track the whale boats.
I think they ought to cut him open and look for it. :rofl:
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I feel the same about murder, rape, robbery, home invasions, child molesters, and any number of violent/semi-violent felonies out there. Maybe death is a better deterrent than jail time.
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This is what our laws have to say about this.
38. The master of a vessel, or any person acting by his order, may justify
the use of any such force against any person on board the vessel as is
necessary for suppressing any mutiny or disorder on board the vessel,
whether among officers, seamen or passengers, whereby the safety of the
vessel, or of any person therein or about to enter or quitting the same, is
likely to be endangered, or the master is threatened to be subjected to the
commands of any other person, and may kill any person who is guilty of or
abets such mutiny or disorder, if the safety of the vessel or the preservation of any person as aforesaid cannot by any means be otherwise secured.
With regards to whaling, the Japs aren't doing anything illegal, as is. If they were doing something illegal I am sure the international community would sanction them.
Hunting is not illegal and I enjoy it very much, I sure as hell would hate to one day have one of these hippies throwing stink bombs at me while I'm out doing something perfectly legal.
38. The master of a vessel, or any person acting by his order, may justify
the use of any such force against any person on board the vessel as is
necessary for suppressing any mutiny or disorder on board the vessel,
whether among officers, seamen or passengers, whereby the safety of the
vessel, or of any person therein or about to enter or quitting the same, is
likely to be endangered, or the master is threatened to be subjected to the
commands of any other person, and may kill any person who is guilty of or
abets such mutiny or disorder, if the safety of the vessel or the preservation of any person as aforesaid cannot by any means be otherwise secured.
With regards to whaling, the Japs aren't doing anything illegal, as is. If they were doing something illegal I am sure the international community would sanction them.
Hunting is not illegal and I enjoy it very much, I sure as hell would hate to one day have one of these hippies throwing stink bombs at me while I'm out doing something perfectly legal.
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