so I've been reading threads from several sites about these two holsters for some time and like many people have said it's a very tough decision. I'm sure I'll be happy with either one (and will probably end up with both one day anyways), but I do have a few more questions I was hoping some people could help with before I get my first one. If it helps I'll initially be carrying a G34 and then when funds allow switching to a P2000sk. At least those are the plans right now. I've decided that I'd like to try the v-clips (velcro). I know that everyone says that people don't notice the standard clips, but I still don't want to take a chance. Particularly since I'll be carrying around a lot of other people that carry and I haven't told anyone that I have my permit. I don't want to give anything away. (try to overlook the discussion that could stem from this statement and just stay focused on the v-clips) My questions are as follows: 1. Is one brand of vclips better than another (MTAC versus Crossbreed). I've heard people say the velcro can come off the Crossbreed clips because the adhesive is poor. While I know they have a lifetime warranty, I don't want to have to mess with that. 2. Does the velcro keep the holster plenty secure? People talk about how secure the CBST is because of the big steel clips. I'm curious to hear from people that use them if the velcro ones keep the holster as secure. This is assuming you're using a nice velcro lined gun belt of course. Any other advice on these two holsters would be appreciated as well. As I mentioned I've read about everything there is about the holsters, but am just having trouble finding info on the velcro clips specifically. Thanks for your help.