close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

another floridian stands his ground

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by 6forsure, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. 6forsure

    6forsure

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2000
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    WEST Texas
  2. ked

    ked

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2007
    Messages:
    2,863
    Likes Received:
    846
    Location:
    tennessee
    i gotta feeling he's going to really regret his actions.

    ked:faint:
     

  3. Glock_9mm

    Glock_9mm

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2012
    Messages:
    260
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    California
    This may reduce the amount of people coming to the door selling magazines. I'm not saying I agree with this, but if it causes the illegitimate door to door sales people to rethink their approach, I'm all for it.
     
  4. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2003
    Messages:
    15,786
    Likes Received:
    4,247
    [​IMG]
     
  5. rednoved

    rednoved NRA Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2012
    Messages:
    3,649
    Likes Received:
    346
    Location:
    Texas
  6. oldman11

    oldman11

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2012
    Messages:
    5,536
    Likes Received:
    2,805
    Location:
    Texas
    Link not working.
     
  7. ted1

    ted1

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    1
    This will not end well for law abiding gun owners. I hate to say it but there are some people that should not own a gun. Like someone who wants to shoot someone for stepping onto there property without any threat.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR
     
  8. Glock_9mm

    Glock_9mm

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2012
    Messages:
    260
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    California
    Mr. Spade, with all due respect, I am serious. I live in what would be called an affluent area. There have been numerous cases where homeowners have been raped, robbed or killed by door to door sales people who cased their homes or neighborhood. Recently a burglary ring was just busted by an alert neighbor who saw suspiciuous people around their neighbors home...turns out it was the same people who had robbed over a dozen homes. It is to the point that I no longer answer the door when I'm home. My kids have strict rules about even going near the door when we are not home. If It seems over the top, well, welcome to Califronia. BTW, I choose to live in one of the "shall issue" counties...any more questions?
    Scott
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2012
  9. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    21,268
    Likes Received:
    2,953
    By all means, sacrifice an innocent person trying to feed their family if it eases your concerns. It's for the greater good.

    Randy
     
  10. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2003
    Messages:
    15,786
    Likes Received:
    4,247
    So how many innocent people are you willing to whack to cut down on door-to-door solicitors? You up to volunteering yourself or one of your kids to be sacrificed for the greater good? Let's say that your community gets a 50% drop in unwanted solicitors after a Girl Scout takes one to the back of the head like this victim did---you still "all for it"?

    I find your attitude towards the taking of innocent life to be despicable. Both you and the Florida moron are giving the antis all the ammunition they could wish for.
     
  11. ZO6Vettever

    ZO6Vettever

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2011
    Messages:
    370
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Central Florida
    Wasn't there but from what the news said it looks like the shooter was a loose cannon. I think he'll be going to prison. Awful lot of responsibilty goes with carrying a sidearm.
     
  12. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    6,711
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Are door-to-door salesmen born of wedded parents OK with you then?:supergrin:
     
  13. Chris Chris

    Chris Chris

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Based upon the news account (which may or may not be totally accurate) there would seem to be NO legal justification for the shooter's actions under ANY of the Florida self-defense statutes.

    My guess is that he goes down hard... and IMHO... he deserves to. I support the SYG law. But if it is used to gain an aquital in this case it needs to be changed.
     
  14. jdavionic

    jdavionic NRA Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    16,241
    Likes Received:
    4,613
    We don't often have fully aligned positions...but we do here. Our rules forbid me from adding to this, so I'll just leave it as +1.
     
  15. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Messages:
    28,685
    Likes Received:
    17
    If you're not saying you agree with this, how can you be all for sales people re-thinking their approach based on this activity?

    So let me ask you outright: Based on the information in the thread starter, do you think the shooter was justified in -


    • pulling his firearm on the sales person?
    • shooting the sales person, absent a threat of force?
    • shooting the sales person in the back of the head while he lay on the ground?
    Thank you.
    - G
     
  16. zbusdriver

    zbusdriver

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2006
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    se michigan
    Very well said.
     
  17. oldman11

    oldman11

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2012
    Messages:
    5,536
    Likes Received:
    2,805
    Location:
    Texas
    +1 on that.
     
  18. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    34,651
    Likes Received:
    5,154
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Please, stop the rude and insulting name calling. If you see an insult, please do not respond.

    If your post is no longer visible, you are guilty of doing one or the other of those actions.
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2012
  19. Brucev

    Brucev

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    9,189
    Likes Received:
    6
    Any decent prosecutor will finish this business quickly... and the killer will then get to be a guest of the state for life is he is not sentenced to execution. Good. Such criminals deserve to be punished to the fullest extent possible under the law.

    The family of the murdered man should press a suit for wrongful death against the criminal extracting from him the maximum possible money damages.
     
  20. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    34,651
    Likes Received:
    5,154
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    I hope you don't mind that I separated your sentences. It makes it a little easier for me.

    Sam and Gallium have asked some questions. I hope you answer them.

    How long have you been carrying?