And so it begins in AZ- prop 203
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It was only a matter of time. The worst thing would be if the raw materials, or the finished product for that matter came from illicit sources. I am wondering how DUI checks are going to come out. You can have people blow into an alcohol sensor and other field sobriety, but this stuff seems to be harder to measure in a person.
For what it's worth in my area it seems that the meth dealers and users are a bigger problem than the marijuana users. Maybe it is time for whole sale analysis of the drug situation and to go after the harder drugs, and still exact penalties off of those trying to bring anything in clandestinely.:dunno:
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But Carolyn Short, chairwoman of the anti-Prop. 203 campaign Keep AZ Drug Free, said Friday that voters will find they voted for a "concept," and anybody who wants marijuana will get it.
It never ceases to amaze me just how naive these people are. Anybody who wants marijuana can already get it. They would deny it to the people who would benefit from it just to keep people from recreational use. How cruel is that!
I've got problems with medical marijuana laws both ways. Morphine and heroin are legal for bad pain yet marijuana isn't and doesn't have as high of risk factors as them. I also think mary jane is a better choice for an anti vomiting agent then some other medications. The problem I have with medical marijuana is that there aren't as many serious roadblocks for it, unlike schedule 3 and above narcotics. I don't smoke it, and won't touch it, but I have several friends allergic to the opiate pain medications that marijuana may provide relief for.
I can see both sides of the issue, I just don't know how something can be done to make them both happy.
I can see both sides of the issue, I just don't know how something can be done to make them both happy.
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Michigan just did the same thing. Too early to tell how its going to turn out.
Massive confusion is the only sure thing. One of the local burbs did a raid on a "clinic". The clinic refused to sell them MJ without the Med MJ card, so they got counterfeit ones and went back, bought some. Arrested everyone, clinic workers, customers, receptionists, the whole lot. Sounds crazy, right?
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rofl the media left out a "little bit". Apparently they actually were violating some portion of the law, I forget the details, will try to find an article, but stuff like you can only have so many plants, a grower can only have so many customers, etc. So it wasn't a jihad against the MJ law that the media is portraying it as.
Should be interesting to see how it shakes out. I admit I haven't followed the details, cause I don't care if its legal, ain't interested.
The devil is in the details, and the Med MJ proposal on our ballot at least was very short on details, legislature I think had to pass some law with the nuts and bolts of it all covered. The proposal just said you want med MJ allowed or not, essentially.
I'll try to find some documentation, I could be way off as I haven't paid a lot of attention to it. I only got interested after the raid, thinking WTF where the cops thinking based on the articles. Its passed, get used to it, you get paid to enforce the law, not to like it, etc. Dug a little deeper and found there were grounds for arrest after all.
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Massive confusion is the only sure thing. One of the local burbs did a raid on a "clinic". The clinic refused to sell them MJ without the Med MJ card, so they got counterfeit ones and went back, bought some. Arrested everyone, clinic workers, customers, receptionists, the whole lot. Sounds crazy, right?
Surprisingly
rofl the media left out a "little bit". Apparently they actually were violating some portion of the law, I forget the details, will try to find an article, but stuff like you can only have so many plants, a grower can only have so many customers, etc. So it wasn't a jihad against the MJ law that the media is portraying it as.Should be interesting to see how it shakes out. I admit I haven't followed the details, cause I don't care if its legal, ain't interested.
The devil is in the details, and the Med MJ proposal on our ballot at least was very short on details, legislature I think had to pass some law with the nuts and bolts of it all covered. The proposal just said you want med MJ allowed or not, essentially.
I'll try to find some documentation, I could be way off as I haven't paid a lot of attention to it. I only got interested after the raid, thinking WTF where the cops thinking based on the articles. Its passed, get used to it, you get paid to enforce the law, not to like it, etc. Dug a little deeper and found there were grounds for arrest after all.
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Well, either the state legislature has been smoking it, or "Marijuana" is actually spelled with an "h", not a "j"... :rofl:
MICHIGAN MEDICAL MARIHUANA ACT :dunno:
That's news to me. I'd say we're off to a bad start based on this...
Randy
MICHIGAN MEDICAL MARIHUANA ACT :dunno:
That's news to me. I'd say we're off to a bad start based on this...
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Archaic spelling. It's often used by the crowd who honestly believe that movies like "Reefer Madness" are documentaries.
I agree that it was only a matter of time. While I do agree that it has legitimate medical uses, I forsee that the greater number of users will simply be pot heads.
I also forsee my tax dollars now funding another way for dead beat system abusers to get high, as I am sure our state health care and SSI will now cover this miracle treatment. I read a good portion of the bill, but thought I might need a joint myself for the vomiting when I read that people with "a chronic condition that produces severe and chronic pain" are eliglible. I am ok with people with AIDS, HIV and cancer etc. getting a medical treatment that can help them, but have (based on experience after being a cop and working emergency medicine for several years) a problem with people being given amounts of *any* pain medication for "chronic pain", which often has no medical proof behind it. This really goes to a much larger issue of people leeching off of hard working members of society, but just adds to my frustration.
I also forsee my tax dollars now funding another way for dead beat system abusers to get high, as I am sure our state health care and SSI will now cover this miracle treatment. I read a good portion of the bill, but thought I might need a joint myself for the vomiting when I read that people with "a chronic condition that produces severe and chronic pain" are eliglible. I am ok with people with AIDS, HIV and cancer etc. getting a medical treatment that can help them, but have (based on experience after being a cop and working emergency medicine for several years) a problem with people being given amounts of *any* pain medication for "chronic pain", which often has no medical proof behind it. This really goes to a much larger issue of people leeching off of hard working members of society, but just adds to my frustration.
The "H" is the scientific spelling for Marijuana, Our state law (Texas) spell it with a "J" but all of the Lab Results which come from the State lab spell it with an "H".
Marijuana was spelled with an "H" in the original incantations. The Bureau of Dangerous Narcotics or whatever that name was for the forerunner to the DEA listed it as such and Reefer Madness called it that as it was the common spelling back in the day.
As for the Feds, let's see them go in and say that States cannot override Federal law on the books that say MJ is illegal, while in the same breath, say that States also cannot enforce federal immigration laws.
As for the Feds, let's see them go in and say that States cannot override Federal law on the books that say MJ is illegal, while in the same breath, say that States also cannot enforce federal immigration laws.
I'm just sitting back and watching concerning this. It seems they want to enforce the flavour of the week, get people virtually naked in a body scan, and not disturb the social demographic which may vote for them.
Don't forget, Black Panthers can threaten white voters with night sticks and be caught on video but if a McDonald's franchiser tells his workers to vote Republican or else the higher taxes might mean layoffs, there will be a federal investigation into voter intimidation.
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