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And So It Begins: Getting a Jump on Health Care Denial

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by GLWyandotte, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. GLWyandotte

    GLWyandotte Señor Member

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    eb07 Sharkin'

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    Hitler did this kind of stuff in a more direct way..... if you do not fit the profile, you must die
     

  3. jason10mm

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    I agree with the decision, and with the generalized complaint that more folks need to die in a manner that allows organ harvesting. Go to any organ harvesting thread (including this one in about 5 more posts) and you will read about folks who heard from their sisters daughters boyfriends roommates doctor who knows an ER nurse dating a trauma surgeon who swears that docs allow organ donors to die faster so they can loot the corpse.
     
  4. Brucev

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    Sounds like a rational medical decision.
     
  5. Crypsis

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    Man, emotional people need to go commando so they don't get their panties in a wad.

    He was denied, not because he was autistic but because the autism makes post-transplant care difficult. They need to ensure compliance with medications. The patient needs to be able to communicate effectively any post-surgical complications, side effects of medications or symptoms of organ rejection, etc.

    People love to believe what they want to believe so they can be offended.
     
  6. Huaco Kid

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    That's why I already sold my body to the Chinese plastination process factory.
     
  7. nmk

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    Hitler in the first response. Is that a record?
     
  8. vikingsoftpaw

    vikingsoftpaw DEPLORABLE ME!

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    Being Autistic will have an effect on being able to care for one's self maintenance after a heart transplant. The heart should go to someone with a better long term supportsystem to ensure success.
     
  9. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    I am happy that (at least in this thread so far) people see this for what it is.

    It was not "big brother" nor was it "against an undesirable" While there are many details it is an issue of "not enough hearts to go around" and "give them to the people with the best chance"
     
  10. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    Or the highest bidder
     
  11. GLWyandotte

    GLWyandotte Señor Member

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    Being autistic, he will likely have a parent to live with or a caregiver. Nowhere does it say he has severe autism, nowhere does it say that he cannot communicate. Those seem to be general assumptions of the physician regarding autism in general. Put him in the lottery will everyone else. There are many high bidders who've received organs after trashing their own through neglect and abuse. This boy is guilty of being born with a bad heart and mother who loves him. She appears to be able to care for him and interpret any ailments for him quite well.
     
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    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    There really isnt a "Lottery." You dont take your chances "like everyone else" Each and every person who gets on the list has gone through the same process. Just because you need a transplant doesnt mean you get a chance at one. A panel (non government BTW) decides if you get one and what your priority level is.
     
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    Right--the physician whose job it was to determine if the transplant was right for him was "assuming" but since you read an article on the internet, you're an expert who KNOWS.

    :upeyes:
     
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    Seems like a sound medical decision to me.
     
  15. Rabbi

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    That is another truth to all of this, no "one" person make the call. There are many hoops and levels you must pass through to get on a transplant list.
     
  16. GLWyandotte

    GLWyandotte Señor Member

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    I do know quite a bit about autism.
    I also know you are a condescending sphincter in about half of your replies on any given subject.
    You must've gotten beat up quite a bit when you were a small scientist.
     
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    OK.

    Do you honestly think you know more about this particular case of autism than a physician who has examined this particular patient's medical history?

    Only half? I must be losing my touch.
     
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    Even though that's how this should be, and anyone who is for a free market/ capitalism would advocate this.... This doesn't seem to be the case, what about Dick Cheney waiting in line for a heart? transplant?

    I may be missing something though, and correct me if I'm wrong. I'm all ears.
     
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    That may be, but I doubt your personal experience is more extensive than the doctors that made the decision (it's not one person that decides yes/no on a transplant).
     
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