There was no SRO. This entire thread is based on a false premise.
Sgt. Erick Estrada of the Texas Department of Public Safety told CNN that when the shooter got to the school, he encountered a school resource officer, dropped a black bag with ammunition inside and entered the school.
Pretty sure the school district police officer is getting called "SRO" in the initial reports.New info as reported on the non-cop forum
There might not have been an SRO
Texas shooting: Uvalde mayor says local police did not mislead anyone about law enforcement responseSalvador Ramos gunned down 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday after barricading himself inside a classroom, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
The suspect walked into the school and was not confronted by a school resource officer, Escalon said. He said media reports stating otherwise were inaccurate.
Once inside the building, the gunman walked into a hallway and then made his way into a classroom, Escalon said.
"Four minutes later, local police departments, Uvalde Police Department, the Independent School District Police Department are inside, making entry," he said. "They hear gunfire, they take rounds, they move back, get cover. And during that time, they approach where the suspect is at."
All of the information at the intial press conference might be wrong
NoI think you are jumping to conclusions.
You said there was no SRO. Let me remind you of your post, from the last page.No
My info is up to date as of an hour ago
There was no LE presence on the campus and the door was unlocked and he walked in un contest.
He also engaged some folks at a funeral home after he crashed the car before he entered, but that did not initiate a lockdown.
Now there’s an idea. Have a “panic button” they wear as a pendant that when pressed locks all the doors."Local police received a call about "a crashed vehicle and an individual armed with a rifle making his way into the school," DPS Lt. Chris Olivarez tells "Fox & Friends."
OK updated story. Police were on the way but not in pursuit. At that moment, the SRO was on his/her own.
If only the SRO had a way to auto-lock down all classroom doors.
He was a transsexual high school dropout with mental issues.I just read a CNN article where they said the SRO didnt shoot. Anyone know for sure? Also, anyone know how he gained entry to the school since they supposedly had everything in place to prevent something like this.
Uvalde school shooting suspect was a loner who bought two assault rifles for his 18th birthday | CNNThe gunman who killed 19 kids and two teachers at a Texas elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, was a local high school student with few if any friends who officials said legally purchased two assault rifles and scores of ammo last week for his 18th birthday.www.cnn.com
Usually (damn, it sucks we can use that word, there’ve been so many of these) I agree. Generally, go to the bad noise and make it stop. Push the shooter until he surrenders or is killed. However, as in Beslan, if they do get dug in with all those dead man switches, a breach / assault might not be the right choice. Of course, that whole thing was just different on a whole other level.I think I would have to go with an active shooter, in a school, cannot become a hostage taker as he has exhibited his desire to kill kids.
He remains an active shooter that must be neutralized as soon as possible. Period. If at all possible.
As long as he is alive and functional, we can’t start treating victims. If he decides he wants to go back to killing his hostages, while you are attempting to contain him or negotiate with him, he can easily kill 2-3-10 more kids before you can react.
So. If I were still teaching active shooter, as I did for 15 years or so, you go in. You hunt him down and, you kill him. Or, you find him proned out begging for mercy.
The pursuit of him does not stop. Does not take a break.
In an hour, he could have boobie trapped the room. ( See Breslan). Even if your not hearing shots, he could be strangling them. Stabbing them.
Tough words in an era where cops are beaten to death with In Service talks about de escalation. Dealing with the mentally ill, and the looming charges when they have to kill a threat to children. I’m sure someone would still be upset.
The problem is you need someone to be willing to push that button.Now there’s an idea. Have a “panic button” they wear as a pendant that when pressed locks all the doors.
That practice might not last a week, if it even lasted a couple of days.Now there’s an idea. Have a “panic button” they wear as a pendant that when pressed locks all the doors.
You win the understatement prize for the day.... However, as in Beslan, if they do get dug in with all those dead man switches, a breach / assault might not be the right choice. Of course, that whole thing was just different on a whole other level.
Move to contact and engage the bad guy(s), unless it’s the wrong choice. Then do something else.
No? The SRO.Somebody or some set of circumstances intervened very early on to get Ramos to barricade himself in that one classroom instead of roaming the building, killing people at random all through the school.
I know I said I was out, but a theory:
1. School admin initiated the lockdown internally in response to reports of Grandmother's shooting/ vehicle crash/ shots fired at nearby funeral home.
2. Most teachers complied and had locked their doors. 4th grade teacher failed, for whatever reason, to lock hers.
3. Backdoor was left unlocked, possibly due to parents coming and going from an awards ceremony earlier that morning. Ramos entered unchallenged.
4. Some combination of officers arrived just as Ramos was entering the school. Ramos tries to enter classrooms to escape them. There's a gun fight in the hall before Ramos enters the 4th grade classroom with the unlocked door.
5. At that point most of the massacre occurs. Ramos then barricades himself and the transformation from "active shooter" to "hostage taker" is complete.
6. The failure to secure the backdoor was the first critical failure. That's on the school personnel if there wasn't an SRO on property at the moment the attack started. If that door was locked, Ramos would have still been outside when officers arrived and more easily killed or captured with less danger to students.
7. The failure to lock the classroom door was the second critical failure. That's on the teacher. If that door was locked, Ramos would have been trapped in the halls and more easily killed or captured by responding officers following commonly accepted active shooter response.