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Rule number one in my book , agency heads should never take command of a crisis situation . They are too removed from reality to make the right call.


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I think a lot depends on the individual agency and the individual head but, yeah, many heads just need to go deal with other things.
No matter the size , they have other jobs and being point in a fast moving crisis / tactical decision is a horrible combination I have never seen it end well.

Their job is to get the support needed and keep the politicians and media at bay . When they are added into the decision making mix it's a disaster.


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A chief of a 5 man department is probably still on patrol himself..
And he has other jobs and likely would not be in charge once it reaches the level this situation did . This agency had a SWAT team .


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In my opinion only, yes and no. If it’s a smaller rural agency they might be among the first on scene, the most experienced, the best trained, and the cavalry might be 30 minutes away. They’ve got to get stuck in and get the job done.

Agencies where there’s more depth and a broader talent pool? Absolutely keep the suits in their safe place and let those in the correct role handle business.
This situation should have been over in 30 minutes I am not talking about a 2-5 man response . As a general rule the boss has no business running a tactical crisis scene .


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Where I worked, a boss is the one who runs such a scene. A junior boss like a sergeant but it moves up as the bigger brass arrive. Not the tac teams themselves but rather the operation . Even the Alerrt active shooter training goes into the management of the scene for bosses from who is running the tac teams, staging area, EMT escorts etc.
Great training and war gaming
A boss, not the boss .


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I read an article which I have no way of finding now that said BorTac attempted a breach and failed which prompted the search for the key. So even a tactical team who I assume had some sort of breaching equipment struck out.

As we know, outward opening fire rated doors on a metal frame are the toughest thing out there to get in.
We are testing breaching rounds on them now I'm thinking two or three into the lock should do it or a small strip charge at the knob to blow the latch


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Gentlemen, the question in my mind about this situation, is why aren't you paying someone like me. My company pays me to drift along above the fray until it's time for me to engage. If I engage, that is at my discretion. If I engage, I have backing, right up through all the executive layers. My only mission statement is to be right.
Well , my team could have been in that door in about 15 seconds with what we carry everyday, but we are not in Texas .


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It’s not rocket science in a lot of ways. A few breeching rounds in a spare ammo case for a shotgun might be a good idea. A strip charge? Most patrol guys shouldn’t carry it. Too much that could go wrong . That’s a SWAT thing
At any given time during the day we have 5-7 SWAT guys working that can carry and deploy small strip charges. Actually the explosive weight of the charge is minimal and would be much safer/ more efficient than a breaching round
 

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This was screwed up on so many levels , you need to get the transcript of the Texas DPS investigation and go through it Officers on scene in 3:00 minutes so many screw ups between on scene officers, dispatch and the chief. The communication was abysmal I will need a month to go through all this garbage.
 
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Yup, can start with failure to provide basic maintenance of doors..... then ISD/PD knew radios did not work in building, but did not upgrade to better radios like BP had that worked... then ISD/PD did not have keys on their officers... You can go on forever with issues administrators failed to address before the actual shooting.
I don't care about most of that on the police side this could have been handled by the first 3 on scene if they kept going
 

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Sounds like a big judgement for the plaintiff to me.
What is ****ing inexcusable is she knew he was coming to help and he was stopped by his peers and they didn't help him rescue her and the other kids, none of them are fit to wear a badge,,,NONE
 

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Law enforcement does a poor job of this. Supervisors should be teaching their jobs to those below them. Ive seen it happen, but it’s extremely rare.
some LE, don't lump is in with that cluster.
 
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And the SCOTUS has already ruled that the police have no responsibility to individuals.
think school district also, they had made contact with him and he ran into a room where he continued to shoot , negligent training, retention ,supervision , the list goes on plenty of things to pick at.
 
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