Ammunition lesson

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  1. Jamesey

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    I paid a visit to a local indoor range with my relatively new AR for some close in target practice. I was informed that my green-tipped ammo couldn't be used there. It has a steel core and could overpenetrate their backstop. It could also make sparks that could ignite the rubberized pellets banked against the hard backstop. I'd never heard of such a thing but wound up buying 20 rounds of their ammo instead of using the 60+ rounds I had brought. I'll have to get outside somewhere to use mine. Anyone else run into this situation?
     
  2. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    Some ranges forbid the use of M855 steel tipped bullets.

    I'm sure they know their range's back stop capacity.
     

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    Yep most don't allow it. Get the xm193 instead of the 855
     
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    I've seen it posted in a few places. I haven't personally read a range insurance policy or backstop manufacturer terms & conditions, but I can see how a range owner could come to the conclusion not to allow M855.
     
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    This is common. Next time do your homework.
    No one wants to hear a loud *** AR blasting away in an indoor range.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Not uncommon. Their house, their rules. Stock up on inexpensive m193 or .223 FMJ for range and casual shooting. Best bang for the buck.
     
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    193 probably has a better chance of penetrating a steel backstop, but is would be just about 0%. 855 is a pretty poor round all the way around. I can see the chance of fire from sparks, but not penetration of armor plates. They are pretty robust in indoor ranges. Many outdoor ranges forbid this type of round as well.
     
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    Yep.....that's been an issue with many ranges since the mid-eighties.
     
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    I've also have seen that a often here and also in an article in Shooters Log once.
     
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    Lol. Too freaking bad.

    Some guy was shooting (what I guess was) a Magnum handgun the other day and I swear it was basically as loud as any AR.
     
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    Most indoor ranges do it now a days. It will damage backstops and make sparks.
     
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    A "family" indoor range near me has a shattered concrete block in the back wall of the building, that they claim was caused by someone a while ago shooting an AP round (I don't know what caliber).

    They are also known for marginal backstop capability and poor air management, so this may not be the condemnation it initially sounds like.
     
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    855 is pretty much trash anyway.
     
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    There's the ricochet thing too. The penetrator will fly all over the place when hitting a steel
    object. After separating from the jacket. Noticed this years ago, spotting for a buddy hitting
    a plate at 300m at dusk. I never noticed in daylight, that they were glowing red hot after impact.
     
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    An indoor range in Indy had a big fire caused by that a few years ago.
     
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    You can get a bulk 100 count box of Federal .223 at Walmart for $40. Brass cases. My first choice for the range.
     
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    Not talking about an AP round. M855 has a steel core, but is not AP by design. 5.56 AP is the M995 ammo.
     
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    My outdoor range won't allow you to shoot them at their steel targets, but you can use them on paper targets.
     
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    TX OMFS Right wing nut Lifetime Member

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    Wrong.