Ammo for competition

Discussion in 'General Competition' started by GlockDiving, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. FillYerHands

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    I shoot that as well. MidwayUSA has it in stock occasionally, at a still decent rate.
     
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    I know some guys near Houston, but just call the match director of the clubs nearest to you and ask them who they recommend for teaching. There is always a GM/M who does instruction.
     
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  3. Paul73

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    i am going over the same thing right now with the G17 into G34 build - the 115gr ammo i have now cannot cycle G34 properly and overall it is just too much junk quality 115gr ammo right now, so, it is not reliable. the 124gr ammo seems to be the min of what will cycle the gun fine - but it wil be 15c-20c pricier per round than a 115gr bulk.

    as of 150gr and others - dunno, i personally refuse to support a $1 per round prices on a 9mm luger. as that will lead to a $2 per round and will never stop. if people would refuse paying that ridiculousness it would not be there.
     
  4. waktasz

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    You probably just need a lighter recoil spring.
    That said, if it's not cycling the gun it probably is close to not making power factor for shooting sports anyway.
     
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  5. Paul73

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    g17 cycled fine on it fine, but, an indoor range i use is 20yds long, so, who knows. the brand was 'venom' - i will never be buying it again.
    not from this site - but, same exact junk:
    https://www.finfeatherfur.com/venom-9mm-luger-ammo-115gr-fmj-50-rounds/
     
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    It's not the ammo. The specs say 1,280 fps which is a 147 PF (Minor is 125). That's plenty of juice to cycle any Glock. It's the shooters grip, very common with newbies.
     
  7. Paul73

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    I have a thread on that topic in the general glocking - i retested it all yesterday, and it is the ammo for sure. I will get back to that ammo to see how it will work with a 11# spring when i gonna get it.
     
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    11 is a little light for a Glock typically, unless you have a very light striker spring
     
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    i ordered 11, 13, 15 and will try them all, going from 15 going down. some folks say they use 13, some say 11. will see. my slide with the scope is at 558g. i hope 13# wil work well with any 115gr ammo, but, will see.

    the absolute cheapest ammo i see available now is the 'wolf' - 50c per round - but i am not sure if it will work well at all, i think there were severe QA issues with those rounds, to the level of cartridge not getting into the barrel due to, well, quite severe deviation from being circle. :)
    i ordered a couple boxes to see how it will go anyway.
    https://www.targetsportsusa.com/wol...teel-case-berdan-primed-p919fmj-p-109800.aspx
     
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    Good point that I had forgotten. The striker spring and recoil spring pull against each other in a Glock. You (the OP) needs to make sure you aren’t pulling the gun out of battery when pulling the trigger with the 11 and 13 lb springs.

    My 34.5’s fail the vertical spring test with 11 lb springs but they functioned fine in the couple hundred rounds I tested before I decided to just stay at 13.
     
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    I've shot several hundred rounds of that Wolf ammo and didn't have any problems with it.
     
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    I used to be a CDP shooter in idpa, then went to 9mm a couple year ago. My least fav ammo is anything 115gr factory, but if it is all you have, then so be it. I load my own 147gr to about 132pf but even prefer 124gr to 115gr. I am playing with 135gr loads to the same 132pf & it is promising.
    FWIW, changing springs is where new glock shooters get into trouble with reliability. Change the ammo to fit the gun, not the gun to fit the ammo. MY G34 runs pretty much anything. but does seem more finicky to grip than my G19.
     
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    I was able to get my hands on some Federal Syntech 150gr ammo and used it in a match last weekend. I shot pretty well with it, but I am still relatively new to this and expect to do better at every match for a while just due to having more experience. So I can't say if the ammo helped me in terms of performance, but I can say it feels better to shoot than the 115gr I usually use. The recoil feels smoother, rounded-off if you will, and hence the gun felt more controllable between shots. It wasn't a huge difference, but it was noticeable.
     
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    no one argues with that, but, a cheapest federal now goes at $.80pr, a red army 124gr - $.67pr or so, i did not see it cheaper anywhere yet.
    a 115gr tulammo i got was $.39pr.
    at that price difference i do not pay much attention of how it feels, i just shoot what i got.
     
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    As a reloader, I understand that I need to use a slower powder with a heavier bullet. So pressure is building slower as a heavier bullet is traveling slower down the barrel.

    I've found my personal favorite powder for 147gn bullet for a compensated 9mm G17 is N330 which is a medium pistol powder.
     
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    JMO, not really. I doubt you can tell the recoil impulse using say VV330 over V320. Some powders do have a "softer" recoil impulse though, fast or medium.
    FWIW, I wouldnt buy or shoot Russian poop ammo in any of my guns, even the cheap Glocks.
     
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    Yeah, heavy for caliber is like that. When you get more experience and this shortage is over look into reloading. You can customize you rounds the way you want them.
     
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    FWIW - a new spare barrel for G34 costs less than a price difference between a 1000 tulammo and a 1000 federal rounds. and those prices do not show any tendency to decline, especially if Biden will get elected.

    and that considering you actually find a deal for a federal - if you get it per 'suggested' online deal of a $1 per round - the price diff there is almost a whole gun.
     
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    I just dont like the ammo or supporting Russian business/Putin, but everyone has their priorities. I reload for practice ammo, cheaper & better quality & still buying American components.