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Americans massacred in Mexico

  1. https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-ci...side-northern-mexican-mormon-community-family

    At least six children and three women living in a community of U.S. citizens in Mexico were shot to death Monday, six more children were wounded and one missing after their convoy came under fire during a brazen daylight ambush believed to have been carried out by gunmen affiliated with organized crime in the country.

    Alfonso Durazo, Mexico's top security official, confirmed the 6 deaths, adding that 6 more children were wounded in the attack, with 5 transferred to hospitals in Phoenix, Arizona. One child is still missing.

    Those attacked were members of the LeBaron family, a well-known American clan who has lived in the community in the northern part of the country for decades, according to The New York Times. Kenny LeBaron, a cousin to several of the victims, told the Times he feared the death toll could increase.

    “When you know there are babies tied in a car seat that are burning because of some twisted evil that’s in this world,” LeBaron said, “it’s just hard to cope with that.”

    More than a dozen other members of La Mora – a decades-old settlement in Sonora state founded as part of an offshoot of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – were missing after the attack on the convoy of three SUVs, a relative told The Associated Press.

    The victims were all reportedly dual Mexican and U.S. citizens and were traveling back to the U.S. when they were ambushed, according to Utah's KUTV.

  2. Wow.

    I wonder what made them kill a bunch of Mormons? Robbery? That’s pretty twisted.
  3. I can't understand why people keep visiting that third world country with massive corruption, they screw this country over in many ways and yet we reward them with tourist who spend money there? They don't appear to notice thousands coming through their country on their way here so they don't have to spend any money or time on it. They dump sewage into our country and allow thugs near the border to shoot at our people and helicopters. Their police department was driving stolen cars from this country till they where embarrassed so badly they had to do something about it.
  4. Waiting to see how this is twisted to be Trump's fault.
  5. What a **** hole country full of corrupt savages. I'll never go back there unless we take it over and turn it into New Florida.
  6. Mexico is a hole filled with feces.
  7. Clearly the Mexicans were upset with Trump's border wall so they had to take out their anger on the only Americans around.
  8. I cant believe people still go over there> I have lived on the border most of my life and grew up going to the bars in Acuna....don't go over there anymore. Nuthing there I care to see or do anymore
  9. I saw that on Fox News. How awful.

    We need to help Mexico clean this mess up, just like we helped clean up Colombia.
  10. You bumped your fool head^^^^^^
  11. The good Lord says to turn the other cheek. Maybe its time to slap back.
  12. No I didn't. We send troops halfway around the world to Afghanistan, yet we allow this lawlessness at our back door.
  13. The difference is, back then, the Colombian government wanted our help.

    The Mexican government ( no matter what they say publicly) does not.
  14. You are welcome to your opinion, I for one, would much rather spend our money and time in THIS country. You do realize, once we "clean" this crap hole to the south of our border, its a short period of time before it turns back into a crap hole...we gonna stay there forever?? Been there, done that, did'nt work. ever.....
  15. My wife and I visited her Uncle and some family down there "San Luis Potosi" a few years ago. I'll not visit again. Beautiful area with an awesome climate. The towns people were wonderful. But we did see some "cartel" related action and we flew back home and we've never returned.
    Came out of a restaurant and one guy starts whistling. Off in the distance, we here another whistle, followed by another opposite directions. My wife's Mom yelled "get in the car now!".
    Second later two or three trucks full of men dressed in all black with big guns go flying down the street, chased my Mexican Police in trucks with large rifles. That was enough for me. I'm done.
  16. Agree. Our President just offered assistance, maybe the new Mexican president will accept it.

    But why should we have troops in Afghanistan when this mess is right in our own backyard?
  17. That passage deals with minor insults. It does not say if he's there to kill you, let him have a good clear shot.
  18. “This was no boating accident”
  19. Might be time to send somebody like this down there for a little lesson to the Mexicans.
  20. Yet another reason to build the WALL.
    Trump 2020
  21. I'll hazard a guess that the local cartel tried to extort the Mormon Church. The church refused.
  23. I was reading a brief that is stating it was a case of mistaken identity due to the family traveling in a convoy of vehicles.

    They weren't going over there and they weren't visiting. They lived there as a group of Mormons.
  24. Never understand why White people go to these third world "places" Spend your $$ here or North Western Europe or the country of your people, fook these feces holes
  25. Here's my opinion...

    The cartels are only getting stronger while we finance their growth. Currently, Mexico's president and the military are nothing more than figureheads fronting for a narco-state. If we don't do something about it soon down there, we're going to have to do something about it here later.
  26. I don’t go there anymore.
    Have gone for over 20 yrs.
    It’s not the same. It’s a lawless brutal country.
    My Mexican friends have lost a Brother (shot in the head and dumped in the street) He would have been a potential witness to a crime so they killed him just to be safe.
    They also pd a very large ransom for their God son and never seen him again.
    They are afraid to be in their business after dark.
    The young thugs and their hoe’s have taken over the nice places in the tourist areas. They are very brazen. They come in and the tourists leave.
    It’s like they dare you to look at them.
    Trust me, Its not the same as it once was.
    Chapo kept things safe for the non cartel folks.
    That’s all done now, everybody is free game.
  27. Maybe the cartels got tired of being woken up by the doorbell on Saturday afternoons by folks giving away pamphlets?
  28. Living in Mexico is like living in Chicago.
  29. They just need some more gun control laws. Then everything will be OK down there.
  30. When in Latin America or in Africa part of the political power is given to the natives, law and order collapse.
  31. that is pure fact...
  32. It is only backed up by history, years and years of history.
  33. If by clean up this mess you mean drone every known cartel member overnight, confiscate all their assets around the globe by any means necessary, the items you can’t take you destroy. Then by all means go break as many drug dealer and corrupt politicians heads as possible.

    If by clean this mess up you mean pissing tax $$ down a black hole, train soldiers to fight us and escort drugs and folks north... no thanks. Money better spent wiping butts, at least you get some return on investment that way.

    We have had troops in that craphole since the 1980’s and before. Still pissing $$ and young lives away on a never ending mission. Now you want to spend more non existent $$ and destroy more lives in another third world craphole? Sorry. We are supposed to learn from our mistakes, not double down on them.

    Want to protect Americans from cartel violence south of the border. Ban tourism to Mexico line we did to Cuba. Teach Americans that third world crap homes aren’t good places to raise a family. Actually protect the border from penetrations by drug mules. Far better than pissing away more of my future grand kids’ wealth.
  34. I recently watched a documentary on Mormon families living in Mexico and the dangers they faced from the cartels. The documentary showed that some family members were kidnapped and they didn't pay ransom. If they payed the ransom, everyone would get kidnapped. The documentary gave the impression that the Mormons would not give in to the Cartel demands.
  35. Call? We don't need no stinking call.:fist:
  36. Think our gvt will fight the cartells? Never gonna happen. They are our business partners.
  37. Since when have they ever done that (?)
    The news today, reminds of a bunch of snotty nose brats looking for attention by spinning and kicking their feet for attention just to get heard.
  38. I dont feel a bit sorry for these people that go to these S hole country`s and get killed.

    STAY YOUR ASS HOME! Or take a dirt nap instead DUH!
  39. 20 years ago my dad was exploring the possibility of retiring in Mexico. He went down exploring. He hired a driver for his time down there and the driver was telling him that if you do move down here, anytime you go out you need to hire a house sitter. You will be ripped off when you are gone, then somebody will steal it from them, and somebody will steal it from them. That's the way our culture is. He did not retire down there.
  40. Used to go to Mexico City and Monterrey back in the 1990’s.

    You didn't have to be far off the path to see some real bad stuff.
    We always had armed security and I still never felt safe.

    I don’t have to go anymore (thankfully).

    The locals thought ripping off Gringo’s was a National Sport. They took great pride in their corruption. The whole f’n country is built on corruption.
  41. I heard Trump could clean mexico up but he wants some quid pro quo for dirt on eric holder.

    If they put tags on the cartel member and let you keep what you take I am sure there would be some Marines volunteer for the job, just give them two weeks leave.
  42. They weren't visiting. They lived there.
  44. Seriously, you think it's a joke.
  45. That family has family across the border.
  46. FWIW. The LeBarron clan is a polygamist group. They had ties to the LDS church some generations ago. They are not members of the LDS church. They have had massive legal troubles in the US so they and some other polygamist groups headed to Mexico years ago.
  47. In a strange way, Mexico offers a possible scenario at what the USA could look like under permanent Democratic rule.
    Think of the demise in Cali and Chicago
    ETA..... and strangely the very wealthy can live very well, effectively untouched.