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Ambi-safety a weak point on the 1911?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by ajgranda, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. ajgranda

    ajgranda

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    <table id="table1" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" valign="top">This is directly from NHC website. What are you opinions of this statement? Seems there would be a few other manufacturers that would dispute this. :dunno:




    Do you offer an ambi-safety on your 1911's?
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td valign="top"> A. If you choose to have an ambi-safety on your 1911, we will install one, but it will not be covered in our lifetime warranty. The 1911 was designed for a single side safety. The axle of the single side safety goes all the way through the frame. In order to create an ambi-safety, it requires taking that solid steel axle, cut it in half, and making some type of dovetail in order for it to un-snap to take the gun apart. By doing this, you have created a natural weak point. They have a tendency to work themselves loose over time, and that is why we do not cover them under warranty.
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  2. sns3guppy

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    Ambi-safeties can be a very weak point. I've had them become sloppy enough that one couldn't take the weapon off safe with the right-side lever.
     

  3. gunsablazin

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    I like them on competition pistols, they are handy on those weak hand pick up stages. I would not have one on a carry gun, unless I was left handed.
     
  4. Rinspeed

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    I don't like them and agree they are a weak point.
     
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    R0CKETMAN NRA MEMBER

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    What NH stated makes sense, but I'm a "lefty", so it's a must. I will say mine has been flawless through several thousand rounds.
     
  6. Screaming .357G

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    I will not have one on any carry 1911. :shakehead:
     
  7. HAIL CAESAR

    HAIL CAESAR Senior Member

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    I agree. It's silly to have one if you ain't a southpaw.
     
  8. rkba_net

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    I have never seen one that I would consider to be durable... but then I like to detail disassemble my M1911's...
     
  9. chuckman

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    Unless, of course, one's dominant hand has been injured and you have been forced to shoot weak-side.
     
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    Even with my weak hand I can click the saftey off with my pointer finger or even thumb with little grip adjustment. I have no use for a ambi.
     
  11. Gary1911A1

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    If I was left handed and wanted a 1911 with a safety on the right side I'd haunt the gun auction boards looking for one of those left handed 1911s'. I beieve it was called the portsider?
     
  12. Jim Watson

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    I tend to agree. A southpaw here broke off two or three in regular IDPA competition. I showed him the King's which has better retention and it lasted better. But he eventually changed to Glocks which don't have all those confusing levers and buttons.

    The makers know it, Caspian has a new design in the works, see pictures in post #13 at:
    http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=250481

    EGW was considering one of their own but may just send you to Caspian.
    SVI had one but now catalog only the regular Swenson design.
     
  13. HAIL CAESAR

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    That is a training issue, or lack of it. You train to disengage the safety with your left hand. I'd rather do a bit of practicing than put a bunch of junk on my guns to make up for the lack of practice.:wavey:
     
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    Thanks Jim
     
  15. MD357

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    Even if you are, there's a VERY good local instructor that is southpaw. He uses his index finger with a little wider single side safety. He got tired of ambis crapping out on him.
     
  16. ajgranda

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    Great information everyone. I will make sure to stay away from ambi-safeties. I had pointed this out primarily because I was looking at a EB MA Edition that I thought could only be had with the ambi. I contacted EB today and they said they could build it with the SS Safety and save me $75.
    :supergrin:

    Thanks
     
  17. HAIL CAESAR

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    I forgot about that method!!:wavey:

    All the new kids I instruct and qualify seem to be all righties. I think the school systems nowadays spots the southpaws in Kindergarten and makes them become righties.
     
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  18. JK-linux

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    Never had the need, fortunately, to mess with any of a 1911's safeties.
     
  19. txleapd

    txleapd Hook 'Em Up

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    All of my 1911/2011's have ambi-safties, and I've never had a single problem. I've carried a 1991 or 2011 on duty for the last 6-7 years, and have shot competitions with them. I just had them built that way with quality parts. I really don't understand the belief that they're "stupid", or "completely unnecessary". I personally believe that are extremely useful on a work gun.

    Different strokes, for different folks....
     
  20. Magus

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    I do think ambi safeties can be a weak point. In fact, the only one I've seen break was on a Nighthawk.