[LSglock89]

It's been beautiful in my part of Ohio and I thought what better time to get some rounds down range before it gets cold out.

I took my Glock 26, 23 and 19.

I had some CCI Blazer Aluminum left over, so I decided I'd use that up.

120 rounds through my G26, no issue at all, dirty, but no problems.

It was time for the Glock 19. I will say that I have not shot this gun, I purchased it used, it is an OD Green. It looks 100% stock to me and shot very little.

I loaded up my mag, put about 10 rounds (couldn't hit an f'n thing) and then it happened; I pulled the trigger and I swear two (2) rounds shot :shocked:. I nearly pissed myself. I was thinking...there is no way I can pull the trigger that fast. It shook me up, but I fired the rest of the mag.

I put in the new mag, all was good and then on the next to last shot, it felt like it fired twice again. The mag was empty and the slide locked back and my heart was pounding.

I took the 3rd mag for my 19 and put it in my 26 and shot all 15 rounds flawlessly. I loaded up that same mag and on the 3rd to last shot, the same 2 round fire happened. I ejected the last round, put the 19 off to the side and fired about 80 rounds through my 23 with no issue.

I really don't think its the ammo because I was shooting the same box of stuff through my G26 and G23...I used 3 different mags through my 19.

It is my first time firing this 19, but not the first time firing a 19. It just really freaked me out, what should I do? :faint:

 

[jwhite75]

Take it to a licensed professional gun smith and have it checked out make sure there is soemthing wrong with the trigger or internal parts. If it is truly doing that its not safe and needs fixed.

 

[TxGlock9]

I'm assuming you have the 40-9mm conversion barrel for your G23 because you say, "I was shooting the same box of stuff through my G26 and G23."

 

[mrsurfboard]

Or he could just send it back to Glock to be fixed.

 

[Bushflyr]

No big deal. Just take it apart and give it a good cleaning, paying particular attention to the striker channel. Make sure it's clean and don't put any oil in it. While you have the striker out inspect the nose (the bit that hits the primer) and make sure there aren't any burrs on it. Inspect the connector and trigger bar and make sure some hack didn't go to town with his Dremel. If it all looks good reassemble and try it out again. Most likely you've just got some gunk in the striker channel.

 

[PHATSPEED7X]

I would make sure the gun is clean and lubed. If your still having problem I would have a gun smith look at it, or send it back to glock and have them look at it.

 

[LSglock89]

I'm assuming you have the 40-9mm conversion barrel for your G23 because you say, "I was shooting the same box of stuff through my G26 and G23."

Poor wording on my part...no conversion barrel. I just meant I was shooting CCI Blazer Aluminum in my .40 and both my 9mms.

No big deal. Just take it apart and give it a good cleaning, paying particular attention to the striker channel. Make sure it's clean and don't put any oil in it. While you have the striker out inspect the nose (the bit that hits the primer) and make sure there aren't any burrs on it. Inspect the connector and trigger bar and make sure some hack didn't go to town with his Dremel. If it all looks good reassemble and try it out again. Most likely you've just got some gunk in the striker channel.

I did buy the gun secondhand as I said, but I gave it a thorough cleaning as soon as I got it home, just because you never know. I'll take it down again and see, but it was cleaned before I went out.

I would make sure the gun is clean and lubed. If your still having problem I would have a gun smith look at it, or send it back to glock and have them look at it.

See above.

 

[HKLovingIT]

I would swap the internals with new factory parts. Perhaps the dummy that owned it prior added in non-factory parts or tried to make his Glock 'better' by doing one of those .25 cent polish jobs. Or just send to Glock and let them fix it. Shouldn't really be running around with a burst mode capable G19. :rofl: I'm sure Glock will fix it up for free.

 

[jack76590]

Agree with cleaning and lubing both slide and frame. I use non chlorinated brake cleaner first to remove crud, esp in slide. I would inspect parts very closely. Esp look at striker and contact point. This is really the expense part in the "fire control system".

 

[Flatulence]

You slam fired. Detail strip the gun, clean and lube. Your firing pin channel probably has some crud in it. Should not be anymore problems after that.

 

[LSglock89]

I've stripped it apart an don't not see any issues, it doesn't even appear that dirty...

HOWEVER...when I slid the slide cover plate off the slide...the extractor depressor spring and bearing flew out across the room...

 

[TKOFaith]

You slam fired. Detail strip the gun, clean and lube. Your firing pin channel probably has some crud in it. Should not be anymore problems after that.

What is "slam firing"?:dunno:

 

[Chowser]

look at the trigger/connector parts of your 19. if any look shiny, then it was probably polished.

if you're feeling adventurous and want to test it out,

take your parts out of the 26 (firing pin, trigger mechanism housing with connector, trigger with trigger bar), stick them in the 19 and see if the problem went away.

then you can start swapping one part at a time until you figure it out.

if you have access to an orange slide cover plate, you can check the engagement of the firing pin to see if it is bad.

assuming you have enough ammo on hand

:rofl:

hopefully, it's not too many parts that need replacing if it is a bad part.
i'm not sure what shipping back and forth to Glock would run you, but the most expensive part is the firing pin.

if you look here, this is usually the parts that get polished in a 25cent job:
http://www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/

to replace each one would probably be cheaper than shipping everything back to Glock.

firing pin $30
firing pin safety $2
connector $3
trigger with trigger bar $10 (i replace this with the fullsize one on all my compacts and subcompacts because i hate the serrated trigger)
shipping $5

those prices came out of the armorer's manual, i don't know what retail prices are.

if you're near Cleveland anytime, I could take a look at it for you. The only thing I don't have in stock would be the firing pin (most of my parts are .357 and are the same)

 

[Flatulence]

What is "slam firing"?:dunno:

Basically,

You fire the gun and the action cycles, however the firing pin gets stuck in its forward position. When the slide chambers the next round with the firing pin forward, BANG. Can happen when some gunk or other foreign object gets stuck in the firing pin channel.

Google "glock going full auto" or search here. I remember a few threads a while back where this happened to some folks with dirty guns.

 

[LSglock89]

The trigger/connector are not shiny...I cleaned everything up, going to re-assemble and put some more rounds and see if it does it again...

 

[TKOFaith]

Basically,

You fire the gun and the action cycles, however the firing pin gets stuck in its forward position. When the slide chambers the next round with the firing pin forward, BANG. Can happen when some gunk or other foreign object gets stuck in the firing pin channel.

Google "glock going full auto" or search here. I remember a few threads a while back where this happened to some folks with dirty guns.

Thanks, I'll give it a search.

 

[LSglock89]

UPDATE:

Okay, I just came back from shooting...

Upon field stripping, I found two things amiss...

- The the extractor depressor spring and bearing did not seem properly seated on the extractor depressor plunger.

- The firing pin safety spring was also not seated properly on the firing pin safety.

I'm not sure what role those could have played if any, but after cleaning, I did my best to make sure they were installed correctly.

I put 100 rounds down range and all is well...I am having some ejection issues (aluminum to the face).

CCI is some diiiirty stuff for sure, going to give them all a good cleaning and relax.

 

[Bruce M]

I would guess the firing pin safety spring may have been the cause. The check for that is to make sure gun is empty, pull trigger and hold it rearward then shake the Glock and listen for the firing pin to shake back and forth.

 

[slappy white]

UPDATE:

Okay, I just came back from shooting...

Upon field stripping, I found two things amiss...

- The the extractor depressor spring and bearing did not seem properly seated on the extractor depressor plunger.

- The firing pin safety spring was also not seated properly on the firing pin safety.

I'm not sure what role those could have played if any, but after cleaning, I did my best to make sure they were installed correctly.

I put 100 rounds down range and all is well...I am having some ejection issues (aluminum to the face).

CCI is some diiiirty stuff for sure, going to give them all a good cleaning and relax.

Same thing happened to me a month ago. I had changed extractors and put all back together and the gun fired exactly as you describe. Took it back apart and found the little spring on the firing pin safety block was laying up in the hole sideways. Installed spring correctly and everything was normal.

 

[bentbiker]

This is almost always caused by the FP safety spring not being fully seated into the plunger (should click). Sounds like you found the problem.