Alliant Green Dot for .40 S&W with plated bullets?

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  1. dgang

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    Find myself with about 8# of Alliant green dot powder from trap shooting days. Since Alliant no longer recognizes Green Dot as a pistol powder I'm hoping somebody has some data for plated 155, 165, and 180gr. bullets in .40 S&W for use at the range. I have some idea from old Alliant manuals but they are for 150 gr. and 170gr. jacketed bullets, plus Alliant has changed their data for Bullseye and Red Dot, so I assume for G.D. also. They calling for more powder and quite a bit less velocity. Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I posed this question a while ago, but didn't get to it. GD seems to be in a suitable burm speed for target loads. I ended up finding a use for it in 45 Colt.

    I believe @Uncle Don uses Green Dot in the 40. Hopefully the mention will rouse his attention.

    I have a digital image from Alliant with archived data. If you send a PM with your email address, I'll get it to you.
     

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    Thanks Taterhead, but I have some of the old manuals already. Just looking for someones pet load.
     
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    I now see that you mentioned that you had the older data. [Slow down and read, Mr. Taterhead].

    Hopefully Don will jump in here. You might try a search. There was a thread in this forum a couple of years ago.
     
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    Thanks Taterhead, that link was useful and showed I was in the ball park with 5.3 for 155, 5.1 for 165 and 4.9 for 180gr. plated.
     
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    Since I had a great deal of GD, my goal was to find as many target loads with it that I could. Fortunately, it worked with all calibers that I load including 40. With a 155 grain (plated or jacketed) my preference was 5.5-6.0 grains. With a 180 cast, I used 5.0. The truth is that the 155 gave good accuracy, the 180 did not but note that it was an aftermarket bbl for a G31. I may try that again by slowing it down a bit more.

    For 45 Colt, my standard load is 6.0-6.5 of GD for 255 down to 225 and have been very satisfied with it's accuracy in two rifles and one SA revolver.
     
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    231/HP38, Zip, Green Dot and N320 are all about the same burn rate. Green Dot, as a flake powder, has no bad tendencies and works GREAT in .45 Auto and .38 Spl.
    The problem is finding loading data, since Alliant no longer publishes pistol data for their shotgun powders.
     
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    Thanks guys.