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Albany, OR. finals are up!

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The Albany Oregon finals are up. This match was shot on Halloween weekend.

In looking at the results I thought that you could only win a maximum of 3 guns as an ametuer shooter before being promoted to master. Gabriel White won three guns in this match which promoted him to master then was awarded a fourth gun in this same match as a master shooter. This does not sound like spreading the wealth as much as it could have been. Why not award him the 3 guns then award another shooter in the fourth catagory he won a gun and spread it around some? I really question also whether or not Gabriel White is a master shooter in another discipline such as USPSA which would mean he could not shoot ametuer in GSSF. I saw him shoot and he was about as close to some of the USPSA grand masters that shot this match as I have ever seen.
DannyR, if you know the answer to how you can win 4 guns in one match, I'd love to hear it.
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I guess we are lucky that he did not also win a random pistol, making it 5 in one match. His 3 amateur pistol wins promoted him to master, where he won his first pistol as a master. 4 wins in one match is unusual and tough to swallow, but all pistols were in accordance with GSSF rules.
The Albany Oregon finals are up. This match was shot on Halloween weekend.

In looking at the results I thought that you could only win a maximum of 3 guns as an ametuer shooter before being promoted to master. Gabriel White won three guns in this match which promoted him to master then was awarded a fourth gun in this same match as a master shooter. This does not sound like spreading the wealth as much as it could have been. Why not award him the 3 guns then award another shooter in the fourth catagory he won a gun and spread it around some? I really question also whether or not Gabriel White is a master shooter in another discipline such as USPSA which would mean he could not shoot ametuer in GSSF. I saw him shoot and he was about as close to some of the USPSA grand masters that shot this match as I have ever seen.DannyR, if you know the answer to how you can win 4 guns in one match, I'd love to hear it.
Anything to suggest this other than his shooting? Did you shoot the match? In the categories he won, he beat the competitiors by 11, 25, and 11 seconds. I don't do USPSA, but do his scores really llok like GM potential? If by some by some chance you find out he is some sort of ranked shooter that disqualifies him, call him out; until then I would :quiet: to avoid sounding like sour grapes.
In the spirit of disclosure, other than some PPC shooting GSSF was my intro to competitive shooting. Shot Pensacola one year, decided to practice and came back the next year and won 3 guns in that match so I know it is possible.
I guess we are lucky that he did not also win a random pistol, making it 5 in one match. His 3 amateur pistol wins promoted him to master, where he won his first pistol as a master. 4 wins in one match is unusual and tough to swallow, but all pistols were in accordance with GSSF rules.
Thanks DannyR for the clarification. I thought it was possible to win 4 guns but was not sure.
Anything to suggest this other than his shooting? Did you shoot the match? In the categories he won, he beat the competitiors by 11, 25, and 11 seconds. I don't do USPSA, but do his scores really llok like GM potential? If by some by some chance you find out he is some sort of ranked shooter that disqualifies him, call him out; until then I would :quiet: to avoid sounding like sour grapes.
In the spirit of disclosure, other than some PPC shooting GSSF was my intro to competitive shooting. Shot Pensacola one year, decided to practice and came back the next year and won 3 guns in that match so I know it is possible.
If I am not mistaken one can goto USPSA's website and try to search for his name to see if he does have a classification or ranking.
A member of USPSA can access the web site.
Thanks DannyR for the clarification. I thought it was possible to win 4 guns but was not sure.

Don't forget random pistol drawings.

Congrats Mr. White & Merry Christmas:shocked:
Cindy:

(1) Knows the GSSF rules.

(2) RangeMastered the Albany match.

(2.5) Did the Albany results and awards.

(3) Has in large part with her husband Bill and others, organized and run the USPSA Area VI match; one of the largest on the circuit. That is to say, if she wants any information from USPSA she can get it with a phone call or an e-mail.

If Cindy says he won 4 guns at one match fair and square, then he won 4 guns at one match fair and square.

(4) If you are not a Master shooter yourself, you will never have to shoot against him at a GSSF match ever again.
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He will enjoy the guns, but will hate the 10-99's that follow them....:crying:
Did any of the GT community shoot the match?
Did any of the GT community shoot the match?
I shot the match and RO'ed a stage.
I saw this guy shoot and he was impressive. I would bet his total time on glock the plates was faster than my single best string. :wow:
He seemed like a nice fella too.
Saw a lot of excellent shooters that weekend but lots of beginners too and it looked like they were all having a great time.
I shot the match and RO'ed a stage.
I saw this guy shoot and he was impressive. I would bet his total time on glock the plates was faster than my single best string. :wow:
He seemed like a nice fella too.
Saw a lot of excellent shooters that weekend but lots of beginners too and it looked like they were all having a great time.
Is this him? http://www.oregonfirearmsacademy.com/staff/gabe.htm

I ask, because of another thread in the forum and an ongoing debate as to whether he should have been shooting as an amatuer. There is a discussion on whether share the wealth should be applied to amatuers.

How did you shoot? Was it your first match? Does the fact that one guy won 3+ guns prevent you from coming back?
Yep, I shot. Had my worst run of the year with the Major Sub but other than that it was OK.

I'm fairly familiar with the USPSA group in Oregon. (Used to be Section Coordinator and now Area 1 Director). I also checked the Albany USPSA results, where he would likely shoot. As far as I can tell he doesn't shoot USPSA. If he was a Master shooting USPSA in one of the clubs I'm at monthly, believe me I'd know. He's not.

GSSF is not that hard of a match to come into off the street and do well at. In fact not having shot USPSA is probably an advantage. I constantly tell USPSA shooters if they think they are shooting slow enough to slow down. If it feels like their shooting way too slow they're probably just about right. Same thing for cops.

I know most of the guys from OFA. They tend to run a pretty accuracy oriented program. It doesn't surprise me that someone could do well from their program in GSSF.
Is this him? http://www.oregonfirearmsacademy.com/staff/gabe.htm

I ask, because of another thread in the forum and an ongoing debate as to whether he should have been shooting as an amatuer. There is a discussion on whether share the wealth should be applied to amatuers.

How did you shoot? Was it your first match? Does the fact that one guy won 3+ guns prevent you from coming back?
Its been a while but that doesnt look like the guy I remember. But if the pic is older it could be that he looks different now.

It was my first match, and no, the fact that a guy like this came in and dominated like that wont keep me from coming back. I have some sympathy for regulars who just missed though.
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