Hello forum! Glad to be a part of this.... and what brought me here has been asked, hashed, debated and argued for years I am sure. I am a 9mm kinda guy and am debating between the G17 and the G34. Concealment is not an issue as I open carry as much as CC. Then within this debate we have the GEN 3 and GEN 4 issues.... and the RTF versus standard...I have tried to search some, and it appears we all agree to disagree. I found a sweet Gen 3, G17 20th anniversary edition NIB and also a used (300 rounds) Gen 3 G34 with (3) 17 round mags. SO as I open the floodgates, I await your never ending knowledge..