i can't believe how much better this 27 carries than my 23. i put off buying the 27 after looking at the specs between the two and could not justify the money for what seemed to be a small difference. well i bought it anyway. i can easily carry the 23 and if i had only one gun it would be the 23. if held right the 27 needs no extension IMO, and loaded its about 7 oz lighter. the 27 is worth it for me and i'm glad i bought it. holding both the 23 seems much bigger now. so to those who are thinking of adding a 27/26 to there 23/19 i think you would be glad you did. to those who are thinking of selling your compact for a sub, i wouldn't.