Accidental discharge in the classroom!

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  1. Marc1956

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  2. tampashooters

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    Accidental? No...

    He had his booger hook on the trigger... It's called a dumbass discharge.

    Something doesn't add up.... he had the gun out of his backpack in a classroom, and while putting it in his backpack, it went off... Uh, was it show and tell? No teachers around?
     
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    15-year-old is charged with having a firearm on campus? How about all the other charges? Or are they just going to ignore those?

    -Cody
     
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    No matter how popular it is to refer the an unintended discharge as negligent, it does not change the fact that it is an accident by definition.
     
  5. bac1023

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    So...

    Are you saying he did it on purpose? :dunno:

    If not, then it was an accident, a real dumb-*** accident.
     
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    polizei1 It WAS Quack

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    But that's where you are wrong. It's not an accident if you PUT your finger on the trigger. "Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire."

    By putting your finger on the trigger, you have a target, and intend to shoot it.

    -Cody
     
  7. PlasticGuy

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    The aversion to the word "accident" is because to a lot of us it implies there is no fault. It wasn't an accident. He was an idiot, which makes the event negligent.
     
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    I hear you, but I always see fault in an accident. :dunno:

    You're right though, he was an idiot.
     
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    Accident: A specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without deliberate cause but with marked effects.


    Sure sounds like what happened to me. ;)

    It doesn't say there's no fault to be recognized. :)







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    It says unexpected and unusual, and without deliberate cause. He pulled the trigger of a loaded gun. The result was both expected and usual. That's not an accident. That's negligence.

    It's similar in my mind to the "clip" vs. "magazine" thing. I prefer the word "negligent" for these events, because I feel it is a more accurate description. He screwed up (negligence), and the predictable result was a shot being fired.
     
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    Gotcha. I hear you and it makes sense. It was an accident caused by negligence.

    I don't think he pulled the trigger intentionally. He may not even have realized his finger was on the trigger.

    Once again, whatever you call it, the kid was an idiot.




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  12. PlasticGuy

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    We can certainly agree on that.
     
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    :thumbsup:
     
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    I don't know what's going on....it's becoming out of hand though. We had a suicide up here in Cherokee a week or so ago. Check out my post in the Georgia forum...
     
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    Uh...what does a suicide have to do with an ad/nd?
     
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    That's a bit different than this story.
     
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    I was referring to teens with guns.

    The negligence should fall back on the family member, and he/she should face the court as well.
     
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    NEGLIGENCE

    The failure to use reasonable care. The doing of something which a reasonably prudent person would not do, or the failure to do something which a reasonably prudent person would do under like circumstances. A departure from what an ordinary reasonable member of the community would do in the same community.

    Negligence is a 'legal cause' of damage if it directly and in natural and continuous sequence produces or contributes substantially to producing such damage, so it can reasonably be said that if not for the negligence, the loss, injury or damage would not have occurred.

    But for the negligence, the "accident" would not have occurred. Just saying...
     
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    :agree:

    Accidents are caused by some sort of negligence a great deal of the time.
     
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    There is no need to say anything, as it still doesn't change the fact that the occurrence was an accident (while also being negligent).

    Saying something is "not an accident" is a falsehood in this instance.