So I work as DoD civilian for the army and today while doing some testing in squads, I'm talking to a guy in my squad about guns and it turns out he's into them as well. Not as in the loop to NJ gun laws and US gun-related current events like Heller and Mcdonald, so there I was having a nice conversation with a future gun buddy and this guy from another squad overhears us and goes "You aren't one of those people who actually think it's a good idea to let people carry guns are you?" (In a very aggressive, 'I'm right and I know so much more about this than you" attitude) "Why yes I am!" (with a smile on my face) "Those guys are kidding themselves, them people saying if students had guns they could have prevented Virginia Tech, I tell ya, you are more likely to shoot someone in a fit of road rage if you let people carry guns" At this point five other guys in my squad overhear and decide to join in the conversation, five people who up until that moment, I had NO idea were gun owners and very pro gun!!!! So it was like six verse one! We start off by quoting statistics and his response was statistics are irrelevant I chime in with Florida and the shall issue movement which resulted in lower crime and he got fixated at the audacity of Florida gambling with people's lives. He then brings up Jesus telling Peter that those who live by the sword die by the sword, to which i respond with If a thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so he dies, there shall be no guilt for his death. Exodus 22:2 He shrugs it off since it is Old Testament. At this point our squad leader sees this is going nowhere and tells us to keep moving and have the squad with the anti stay behind. As we walk away we end up talking guns and talking about how ya just can't fight emotion with hard facts. Turns out in addition to guns they were also all very conservative so all in all I made some extra gun buddies at work! There is nothing more satisfying than finding out a bunch of people (especially in NJ) who agree with pretty much all your values!