That was exactly what I was worried about. No way they were getting to my door when it was me vs 3 guys and 1 girl. Only other person here with me was my wife. Not risking it. They were not setting one foot on my property.
Absolutely crazy encounter with a mobile mechanic last night. Ended up drawing on this ***** and his 2 friends with him. Police sided with us. Insane.
So I have an issue with my starter, as we all know from my last post here.
Starter won. I dont have the right tools to do it after all. I was given a number by a random person on facebook that said to contact this person, they can probably come now.
So we agree on a time for him to come. 4:30 pm. 5pm arrives he still has not shown up or replied.
I text and let him know it's getting dark and he needs to get here soon or I will have to wait and do it tomorrow.
He has me call him and he (very excitedly) kept insisting he was on the way soon, he has lights and everything he needs to do it no matter how dark it is.
I reluctantly agreed and told him ok be here by 6 and I will see what your equipment is like and go from there.
6:45pm arrives, still no sign of him. I tell him it's too dark, I don't know you, you could be the best mechanic ever, or the worst. but I'm not risking my only vehicle in the dark to a complete stranger, and not to come.
30 minutes later I get a text saying he will be at my house in 4 minutes.
I replied and told him no, I told you not to come 30 minutes ago, I'm not comfortable with this at this point and you are not touching my car this late and I am not paying you anything just to show up and then leave when I tell you to go away.
He says, and I quote, "I'm still coming to your house."
I tell him dude, no, you're not. I don't know you, if you come here after specifically being told not to multiple times, you are going to have a very bad night.
2 minutes later I hear them pull up. I go outside with a beer in one hand, and tell them they wasted their time, I am not having it done. It's literally pitch black at this point. They start arguing. There are 3 of them for some reason.
I tell them to leave, they want to argue. I tell them it's not up for debate, leave now. They aren't moving and start getting more argumentative. I pulled out my FN with an extended mag and tell them again to leave. They start saying they will shoot me and they are calling the cops. I told them no, I am calling the cops right now, you better not be here when I come back outside.
By the time I went back out they were gone and the cops were there. Super professional the entire time. Told me if they come back just stay inside and call the cops and do what I need to do if they try to force their way inside.
As I was explaining everything to the officers, they kept calling and texting my phone until I blocked them while the police were watching me do so.
Nothing else happened, my car is still ****ed up today and the person went on facebook and started saying we came outside with a gun, completely ignoring to provide any of the details or messages that led up to this happening. Ended up just deactivating the account because it's not worth it.
Like I told the cops, all I want is to get my car fixed. But not by someone I've never met, don't even know their name, in the pitch black of night. Not happening. They all agreed.
Anyway. What a night. Ridiculous.
Starter won. I dont have the right tools to do it after all. I was given a number by a random person on facebook that said to contact this person, they can probably come now.
So we agree on a time for him to come. 4:30 pm. 5pm arrives he still has not shown up or replied.
I text and let him know it's getting dark and he needs to get here soon or I will have to wait and do it tomorrow.
He has me call him and he (very excitedly) kept insisting he was on the way soon, he has lights and everything he needs to do it no matter how dark it is.
I reluctantly agreed and told him ok be here by 6 and I will see what your equipment is like and go from there.
6:45pm arrives, still no sign of him. I tell him it's too dark, I don't know you, you could be the best mechanic ever, or the worst. but I'm not risking my only vehicle in the dark to a complete stranger, and not to come.
30 minutes later I get a text saying he will be at my house in 4 minutes.
I replied and told him no, I told you not to come 30 minutes ago, I'm not comfortable with this at this point and you are not touching my car this late and I am not paying you anything just to show up and then leave when I tell you to go away.
He says, and I quote, "I'm still coming to your house."
I tell him dude, no, you're not. I don't know you, if you come here after specifically being told not to multiple times, you are going to have a very bad night.
2 minutes later I hear them pull up. I go outside with a beer in one hand, and tell them they wasted their time, I am not having it done. It's literally pitch black at this point. They start arguing. There are 3 of them for some reason.
I tell them to leave, they want to argue. I tell them it's not up for debate, leave now. They aren't moving and start getting more argumentative. I pulled out my FN with an extended mag and tell them again to leave. They start saying they will shoot me and they are calling the cops. I told them no, I am calling the cops right now, you better not be here when I come back outside.
By the time I went back out they were gone and the cops were there. Super professional the entire time. Told me if they come back just stay inside and call the cops and do what I need to do if they try to force their way inside.
As I was explaining everything to the officers, they kept calling and texting my phone until I blocked them while the police were watching me do so.
Nothing else happened, my car is still ****ed up today and the person went on facebook and started saying we came outside with a gun, completely ignoring to provide any of the details or messages that led up to this happening. Ended up just deactivating the account because it's not worth it.
Like I told the cops, all I want is to get my car fixed. But not by someone I've never met, don't even know their name, in the pitch black of night. Not happening. They all agreed.
Anyway. What a night. Ridiculous.
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So here's an option that could have gotten your car fixed on Day 2 (assuming you spent Day 1 thinking you would do the work and then changing your mind).
Call your mechanic and ask him to send a tow truck. OR, use your smartphone or computer to search for a towing company, then have your car towed to the mechanic.
But inviting some random strangers from FB to your house???
Of course, it's not like anybody used Craigslist to rob or kill people, right???
Facebook is SO much more legit...
Call your mechanic and ask him to send a tow truck. OR, use your smartphone or computer to search for a towing company, then have your car towed to the mechanic.
But inviting some random strangers from FB to your house???
Of course, it's not like anybody used Craigslist to rob or kill people, right???
Facebook is SO much more legit...
It was a local group on Facebook I had posted in, asking for a mobile mechanic that would come to my house and do it there. I tried all the shops first. Nobody was willing to come to me because they knew how big of a pain in the ass that job is on this vehicle. They all wanted to use their lift, which I don't blame them, but I don't have free roadside assistance and I was already out $200 for the new starter as it was. I didn't want to pay another $100 or more just to get it towed to a shop so it could sit there for possibly days before even being worked on and fixed, when it had to be finished by yesterday at the absolute latest.So here's an option that could have gotten your car fixed on Day 2 (assuming you spent Day 1 thinking you would do the work and then changing your mind).
Call your mechanic and ask him to send a tow truck. OR, use your smartphone or computer to search for a towing company, then have your car towed to the mechanic.
But inviting some random strangers from FB to your house???
Of course, it's not like anybody used Craigslist to rob or kill people, right???
Facebook is SO much more legit...
The one who ended up fixing it for me owns a shop about 45 minutes away each way, but after telling him what happened the night before, he was willing to help us out and come do it. That's why I made sure to give him more than his original quoted price. Well, one of the many reasons why I gave him more.
Anyway, hindsight is always 20/20. I saved this guy's number and info for any future problems. I had to go through some bull**** the night before with these 3 creeps, which I'm still pretty sure they had no intention of working on the car at all, but in the end it got fixed and is back on the road now. That's all I wanted. Just sucks that it happened in the first place, but everything worked out and nobody got hurt. That's the important part.
Sounds like it would be exhausting being an acquaintance of yours.It was a local group on Facebook I had posted in, asking for a mobile mechanic that would come to my house and do it there. I tried all the shops first. Nobody was willing to come to me because they knew how big of a pain in the ass that job is on this vehicle. They all wanted to use their lift, which I don't blame them, but I don't have free roadside assistance and I was already out $200 for the new starter as it was. I didn't want to pay another $100 or more just to get it towed to a shop so it could sit there for possibly days before even being worked on and fixed, when it had to be finished by yesterday at the absolute latest.
The one who ended up fixing it for me owns a shop about 45 minutes away each way, but after telling him what happened the night before, he was willing to help us out and come do it. That's why I made sure to give him more than his original quoted price. Well, one of the many reasons why I gave him more.
Anyway, hindsight is always 20/20. I saved this guy's number and info for any future problems. I had to go through some bull**** the night before with these 3 creeps, which I'm still pretty sure they had no intention of working on the car at all, but in the end it got fixed and is back on the road now. That's all I wanted. Just sucks that it happened in the first place, but everything worked out and nobody got hurt. That's the important part.
Priorities . Sell your FN and extended mags and then buy a used jack, set of ramps, jack stands and a tool kit from a pawn shop or craigslist. Then you will probably have enough leftover to buy a Glock. Or maybe you shouldn't have a firearm because people are way too quick to start pulling them. Problems solved.
Now these 3 guys have a beef with you, know where you live and what your schedule is. Oh, and you're lucky you didn't go to jail. It's all about what an average person would reasonably believe. Not sure you'd find many that would consider that an imminent deadly threat to justify pulling a gun.
Good luck!
Good luck!
.......I replied and told him no, I told you not to come 30 minutes ago, I'm not comfortable with this at this point and you are not touching my car this late and I am not paying you anything just to show up and then leave when I tell you to go away.
He says, and I quote, "I'm still coming to your house."
I tell him dude, no, you're not. I don't know you, if you come here after specifically being told not to multiple times, you are going to have a very bad night.
2 minutes later I hear them pull up..........
I would have stayed inside and called the police. But that's just me. I'm very happy it worked out well for you, and I'm happy nobody got shot.
I don't know how many times this answer is given in this thread....but that's the answer.....
Me, I would have drank my beer inside while on the phone with the police, drawn only if they try to get in my house, but that is just how I roll.
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You tell someone to NOT come to your house and they show up.... taking a gun outside is a very distant second to 'stay inside and call the police' on the list of good ideas. Going out with a beer and a gun...
But then I'd never say 'FN with an extended magazine' in a thread like this either so I guess we're all just different.
And don't confuse "wrong" with "illegal".
Cool.
Nope, problems already solved. I did not come here asking for advice. I know the laws here better than half the people pretending to. Which is why I was not arrested and they said I did everything correctly.Priorities . Sell your FN and extended mags and then buy a used jack, set of ramps, jack stands and a tool kit from a pawn shop or craigslist. Then you will probably have enough leftover to buy a Glock. Or maybe you shouldn't have a firearm because people are way too quick to start pulling them. Problems solved.
I literally don't care what a bunch of armchair wannabe lawyers are saying. I did nothing wrong here. Police verified that already.Now these 3 guys have a beef with you, know where you live and what your schedule is. Oh, and you're lucky you didn't go to jail. It's all about what an average person would reasonably believe. Not sure you'd find many that would consider that an imminent deadly threat to justify pulling a gun.
Good luck!
These three also know that I will defend myself if needed, and they do not know what my schedule is, because they don't know what I do for work.
Anyway, closing this thread now. Well when I get back to the laptop anyway.
It's obvious half the people commenting do not know what they are talking about. Especially the clown saying in my state you HAVE to fire if you pull it. Lmao no.
This has been even funnier than the thread about the guy who took a shot at the kid cutting down a tree on private property!
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Wrong was showing up 3 guys and 1 girl against me after being told repeatedly not to for over an hour and a half. For a starter. WTF do they need 3 men and 1 woman for? You can barely fit one person under the vehicle once it's on jack stands. What are the other 3 people here for? THAT is wrong.I don't know how many times this answer is given in this thread....but that's the answer.
You tell someone to NOT come to your house and they show up.... taking a gun outside is a very distant second to 'stay inside and call the police' on the list of good ideas. Going out with a beer and a gun...
But then I'd never say 'FN with an extended magazine' in a thread like this either so I guess we're all just different.
And don't confuse "wrong" with "illegal".
NOT me bringing a gun outside with me, holstered, on MY OWN property.
"ooooooooh, you brought a beer outside with you toooooo!"
Alcohol is legal. Firearms are legal. Both are legal on your own property in this state. I did nothing wrong here. Can't believe I need to repeat this for 5 pages now, but here we are.
Nothing I did here was wrong OR illegal. Which is why I was not arrested, detained, or even searched. No ID was asked for. No questions about how much I've had to drink or if I was intoxicated. It was clear I was not by any means.
Like I said. I know the laws in my state better than 50% of the people replying here, which is why I was (and still am) free to post this thread after it all happened.
And as I stated before, me vs 3 people = extended mag is coming out with me. Not the 12 round standard capacity one. It's a FN509 Tactical Compact. Not the tactical which comes with a 15 round standard capacity.
I did nothing wrong. I did nothing illegal. I gave these losers multiple opportunities to **** off and not show up here, and made it very clear to them they would not be working on or even touching my car if they did show up, and definitely will not be paid just for showing up.
They did not listen.
TLDR: They ****ed around, and they found out.
I was NOT about to let 3 people I don't know make it to my front door in the first place, or even set one foot on to my property, after they had repeatedly been told not to come, they are not welcome anymore. Even told them they are free to come back in the morning if they like, but that wasn't good enough. I posted screenshots. Go read them.
Apparently I can't close the thread myself or delete it anymore. Oh well. I'll just have mods do it for me.
Again, I did not come here asking for advice. I did everything correctly. Don't care what anyone's opinion on the matter is. Especially not people who have no idea what they are talking about.
The clown saying you HAVE to fire if you pull it in SC needs a refund from his instructor, and needs to take a new concealed carry class for South Carolina. You were seriously misinformed.
Obviously you care about everybody's opinion or you wouldn't have posted this thread.
Tell me you didn't read the entire thread without telling me you didn't read the entire thread.
I have stated multiple times I am not here asking for advice, I am not asking what I should have done differently.
I am simply sharing the insane encounter that happened with the people here. It was completely uncalled for and just insane.
I am pretty sure the guy was on either cocaine or meth. Just way too excited on the phone, sniffing every 2-3 seconds inbetween his run-on sentences, and said he would do the entire job in pitch black for just 70 dollars.
Give me a break.
Then they show up with 3 men, 1 woman.. WTF was the plan here? Tell me, since the majority of you seem to think you know everything.
What was their plan, Miss Cleo?
I have stated multiple times I am not here asking for advice, I am not asking what I should have done differently.
I am simply sharing the insane encounter that happened with the people here. It was completely uncalled for and just insane.
I am pretty sure the guy was on either cocaine or meth. Just way too excited on the phone, sniffing every 2-3 seconds inbetween his run-on sentences, and said he would do the entire job in pitch black for just 70 dollars.
Give me a break.
Then they show up with 3 men, 1 woman.. WTF was the plan here? Tell me, since the majority of you seem to think you know everything.
What was their plan, Miss Cleo?
Now they know what level of body armor to wear........I'd switch to a 5.7 if you hear a bump in the night...
If the situation calls for rifle rounds, it calls for a rifle.Now they know what level of body armor to wear........I'd switch to a 5.7 if you hear a bump in the night...
60 shots of JHP 9mm was more than enough in this scenario if they had tried to escalate even further. Which they would have had I not drawn and told them to leave, now.
They tried to argue and say they were calling the police on me. LMFAO I told them good luck with that, already doing it. You better not be here when I come back outside. And they weren't.
If only they had listened to any of the OTHER things I told them before it came to all of this, like DO NOT COME, YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING MY CAR. WAIT UNTIL MORNING. Hmmm.
It's almost as if, had they listened to those messages in the first place, this never would have happened at all. Shocking, I know. But I'm somehow the bad guy. LOL yeah, no. Don't think so.
Oh well. Like I said, not wrong on my part, not illegal on my part, I did not come here asking for advice.
Just came to share the story.
Legal don't always mean best option. Glad you are OK and got your vehicle fixed.
It was definitely not the "best" option by any means, but I was forced to take it to that level.Legal don't always mean best option. Glad you are OK and got your vehicle fixed.
The best option would have been for them to say okay, I understand, we will wait and come first thing tomorrow morning. Which I gave them that chance.
NOT to show up here after being repeatedly told not to, being told that they are not touching my vehicle in the dark, and that they are not getting paid just to show up, so why bother coming at all?
Then they reply with "I'm still coming to your house."
Uh... NO, you're not. If you do, you are NOT going to have things go swimmingly for you.
And then they showed up with 3 guys and 1 girl after being told NOT to come multiple times anyway.. Like, what. How am I the bad guy here?
How people are trying to talk **** about me is just adding to the craziness. Especially the ones who not only think, but actually BELIEVE, they HAVE to fire if they pull a gun, especially in my state.
We have some of the strongest SYG and Castle Doctrine laws in the country here. No duty to retreat even in a public place.
The ones saying this type of unfounded bull**** are the ones who need to take a new concealed carry class, with a completely new instructor. I'd also be demanding a refund from the one who did my original class if I were them, because they are seriously misinformed. Their beliefs are going to get them or someone else hurt some day if they truly believe what they are saying.
I have been carrying since legally allowed. Owned a long gun since legally allowed. Never once in my life have I ever shot anybody, and I hope I never have to.
But I am not going to be a victim at my own home, KNOWING the law is on my side.
In many states you're not allowed to pull the gun without pulling the trigger.
If a nutter is running at me and I pull my gun, but he turns and runs away, should I go ahead and shoot him in the back? 🤣
"...not allowed to pull the gun without pulling the trigger." might be the single most absurd thing I have ever read on any message board. Ever.
You do understand the Use of Force Continuum?In many states you're not allowed to pull the gun without pulling the trigger.
When lethal force is justified threat of force is always justified.
Exactly.You do understand the Use of Force Continuum don't you?
When lethal force is justified threat of force is always justified.
I am honestly surprised at the number of people on this website that are so far-off from the real world and the legality of things involved when it comes to something as serious as this.
I literally drew a firearm, with a beer in my other hand, and then called the police myself, and answered the door with said beer in my hand and said firearm in my holster when police arrived.
Not once was I asked for ID, asked how much I had to drink, anything at all.
I was 1000000% in the right here.
But of course, like any other forum, you will have people who think they know better than you, even when they couldn't be further from the truth.
I absolutely LOVE that this dude tried to use MY STATE as an example. LMFAOOOOOOO
Literally could not BE any more wrong. It's hilarious. Then when called out, he says oh this is fake then, or you don't live there.
LOL sure thing buddy. I just know my laws better than you because I know how to read and interpret things better than you. My instructor was also better than yours.
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