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So I have an issue with my starter, as we all know from my last post here.

Starter won. I dont have the right tools to do it after all. I was given a number by a random person on facebook that said to contact this person, they can probably come now.

So we agree on a time for him to come. 4:30 pm. 5pm arrives he still has not shown up or replied.

I text and let him know it's getting dark and he needs to get here soon or I will have to wait and do it tomorrow.

He has me call him and he (very excitedly) kept insisting he was on the way soon, he has lights and everything he needs to do it no matter how dark it is.

I reluctantly agreed and told him ok be here by 6 and I will see what your equipment is like and go from there.

6:45pm arrives, still no sign of him. I tell him it's too dark, I don't know you, you could be the best mechanic ever, or the worst. but I'm not risking my only vehicle in the dark to a complete stranger, and not to come.

30 minutes later I get a text saying he will be at my house in 4 minutes.

I replied and told him no, I told you not to come 30 minutes ago, I'm not comfortable with this at this point and you are not touching my car this late and I am not paying you anything just to show up and then leave when I tell you to go away.

He says, and I quote, "I'm still coming to your house."

I tell him dude, no, you're not. I don't know you, if you come here after specifically being told not to multiple times, you are going to have a very bad night.

2 minutes later I hear them pull up. I go outside with a beer in one hand, and tell them they wasted their time, I am not having it done. It's literally pitch black at this point. They start arguing. There are 3 of them for some reason.

I tell them to leave, they want to argue. I tell them it's not up for debate, leave now. They aren't moving and start getting more argumentative. I pulled out my FN with an extended mag and tell them again to leave. They start saying they will shoot me and they are calling the cops. I told them no, I am calling the cops right now, you better not be here when I come back outside.

By the time I went back out they were gone and the cops were there. Super professional the entire time. Told me if they come back just stay inside and call the cops and do what I need to do if they try to force their way inside.

As I was explaining everything to the officers, they kept calling and texting my phone until I blocked them while the police were watching me do so.

Nothing else happened, my car is still ****ed up today and the person went on facebook and started saying we came outside with a gun, completely ignoring to provide any of the details or messages that led up to this happening. Ended up just deactivating the account because it's not worth it.

Like I told the cops, all I want is to get my car fixed. But not by someone I've never met, don't even know their name, in the pitch black of night. Not happening. They all agreed.

Anyway. What a night. Ridiculous.
 

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I got my car fixed by someone today. Even he said he doesn't know wtf the people last night were trying to do. He got here at 2 pm. Didn't leave until 7 pm once it was fixed and confirmed to be fixed.

He is a cool dude. Ex military. We compared guns. He loved the FN I pulled on these morons last night and completely understood why I did.

His was underwhelming I guess, being ex-military, but like I told him, something is better than nothing.

He also said WTF did they even show up for, when you had told them multiple times not to come? You're not friends, you don't know each other. Why even show up?

I told him that's exactly my question. When they refused to leave while I asked them to nicely, I decided to ask them not so nicely.
 

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South Carolina. If you pull the gun and don't pull the trigger, you weren't in reasonable fear for your life and thus had no reason to pull the gun. Per the instructors at cwp classes statewide. We were warned in class of probability of being charged for brandishing. Don't have my notes from class handy. They cited the law in the class.
You are absolutely wrong because I am in South Carolina and the police said I did everything perfect.

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Dude, you’re lucky you weren’t arrested. Pulling a gun on unarmed guys while under the influence of alcohol. Wow lol
It was my first beer on my own property. It's also possible to have alcohol and not be intoxicated, you realize that, yes?

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Glad it all worked out OP!

Me, I would have drank my beer inside while on the phone with the police, drawn only if they try to get in my house, but that is just how I roll.

Certainly smells of a scam from them, glad you did not become a statistic.
The only reason I went outside is they specifically said "I am still coming to your house." after being told for the last 30 to 45 minutes not to.

I was not about to give them a chance to make it to the front door.

The guy seemed like he was on Coke or meth when he was on the phone, he kept sniffing and was just way too excited about coming, even though it would be completely dark outside by the time he got there, which it was.

It worked out in the end and is a hell of a story to tell, that's for sure. But no, I guess it's easy to tell me what you would have done when you don't have the screenshots of the entire conversation.

Not you specifically Fred, just you as in everyone in general.

They were told multiple times not to come, I had never met any of them so it's not like they were friends that were going to hang out.

They had no reason to show up at my house after being told repeatedly they are not working on my car in the dark. Simple as that. And people can laugh all they want but me against three people yeah I chose the extended mag. I also love the people saying they were unarmed they literally said they were going to shoot me, kind of impossible to do if you're unarmed.
 

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Moral of the story is to never take someone else phone # for a joe blow mechanic. I wouldn't never do that
IMHO they running a mobile repair unit for a reason unless it's a mobile repair truck of a brick and mortar business .
That's what I ended up doing yesterday. Guy was ex military, he now runs a shop and makes house calls for people who can't come to him. Quote was 165 for labor. Ended up giving him $200. It was a bit harder than we both had expected due to my yard and driveway, but he got it done and I am just happy to have my car again. I spent the weekend walking everywhere I needed to go. Not fun at all.
 

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Meh not really. I did nothing wrong. I'm 36 years old I'm allowed to drink and have a gun at the same time on my own property. Not once did I leave my porch or yard. I knew better than to go on public property.

You guys can believe it or don't, I don't care either way. But it did happen. Just figured I'd share the bull**** that went down with everyone else. Never taking a random person's word for someone they know ever again though that's for sure.

And yeah he said he would do it for $70 which after having it done yesterday at a quote of 165 (gave 200 in the end) there's no way these people planned on fixing the car that night.

It took about 6 hours to do yesterday and this guy had everything he needed and runs his own shop. Why they came at dark with 3 people is beyond me or anyone else who has heard it. They had a different plan in mind, no doubt about it.
 

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Your mistake was coming outside and pulling your gun. At that point you became the aggressor.
That's just like, your opinion, man.

lmfao cops didn't think so.
 

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Bite the bullet, (no pun intended) and take it to a reputable shop.
I would have if it was able to start and drive to the shop. I just got lucky that it happened at my house instead of 10 miles out in the country in the middle of nowhere (where I had been delivering an order the night before)
 

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Buy the correct tools, YouTube it and fix it yourself, it’s just a starter!
I did YouTube it and once I tried to do it myself I knew I didn't have the right equipment for it. I've done plenty of starters on other vehicles before. The location of it on this car is insane. The engineers for this model really seem to hate mechanics. Look it up. 2008 Honda Civic LX

Absolutely ****ed up spot to put a starter in, especially in such a small and already low to the ground car.
 

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It's easy as can be. Two bolts. Stop pulling your gun on mobile mechanics for two seconds and maybe you can learn how to do this.:ROFLMAO:
Wrong car. I said 2008 Honda Civic LX

Its also under the passenger side. Also more than 2 bolts. I helped the guy do it yesterday. It was a pain in the ass but we got it done. As I said I've done plenty of starters, brake pads, rotors, all kinds of **** before. I don't need to "learn how to do it" I just didn't have the right equipment to do it myself this time.
 

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Another view (not one that I agree with but understand how it can come about):

Yes, he did contact strangers. The people at my service station are also strangers. He had trespassers who were warned not to come on the property. Anyone can drink and have guns on their property. Just because he had one beer doesn't make him impaired. This treatment of alcohol has turned into nonsense. He pulled a pistol when there was a disparity of force when the strangers refused to leave.
The first person who actually gets it in this entire thread. Amazing it took 3 (wow, 4 pages now) to find someone that understands what actually happened.
 

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It sounds very much incorrect since it does not allow the attacker to change their mind and disengage.

All 50 states have pretty much the same criteria for lawful use of lethal force. It'll be interesting to read if it's true.
It is very much not true. I have taken the CWP class and had my permit. I did let it expire in hopes of passing constitutional carry, but I stay up to date on the laws here.
 

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Now I have to go research it
This is just 2 pages of our conversation. I had told him several times before these messages were exchanged not to come.

In total I gave him about an hour and a half notice that he was too late now and not to come.

He was supposed to be here at 5:30. Then it turned in to 6:30. Then 7. Then at 7:45 all of this happened when he showed up, clearly uninvited.


I even told him if he can be there in the morning, he can still do it. But no way I was letting him touch our only vehicle in the dark.

My usual mechanic replaced the passenger side control arm for me in under 15 minutes at his shop.. He definitely knows what he's doing.

So for him to say he wouldn't attempt it in the dark.. Yeah, that was enough confirmation for me to tell this guy (who I'd never even met before and knew nothing about) not to come.
 

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I would not have given my home address to some unknown guys recommended by a random person on FB.

But that's just me.
Lesson learned, trust me. I was just desperate to get our car fixed it had already been 4 days without it by that time and I only had one day left until we both had to go back to work.
 

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That’s the biggest mistake here as I see it. Letting 3 dudes get to your front door might have been a bigger problem than 3 in the driveway and could’ve possibly resulted in a shooting had they tried to force their way in. As an aside, if you don’t have a permit in CT you CANNOT legally carry a firearm on your own property.
That was exactly what I was worried about. No way they were getting to my door when it was me vs 3 guys and 1 girl. Only other person here with me was my wife. Not risking it. They were not setting one foot on my property.
 

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So here's an option that could have gotten your car fixed on Day 2 (assuming you spent Day 1 thinking you would do the work and then changing your mind).

Call your mechanic and ask him to send a tow truck. OR, use your smartphone or computer to search for a towing company, then have your car towed to the mechanic.
But inviting some random strangers from FB to your house???
Of course, it's not like anybody used Craigslist to rob or kill people, right???
Facebook is SO much more legit...
It was a local group on Facebook I had posted in, asking for a mobile mechanic that would come to my house and do it there. I tried all the shops first. Nobody was willing to come to me because they knew how big of a pain in the ass that job is on this vehicle. They all wanted to use their lift, which I don't blame them, but I don't have free roadside assistance and I was already out $200 for the new starter as it was. I didn't want to pay another $100 or more just to get it towed to a shop so it could sit there for possibly days before even being worked on and fixed, when it had to be finished by yesterday at the absolute latest.

The one who ended up fixing it for me owns a shop about 45 minutes away each way, but after telling him what happened the night before, he was willing to help us out and come do it. That's why I made sure to give him more than his original quoted price. Well, one of the many reasons why I gave him more.

Anyway, hindsight is always 20/20. I saved this guy's number and info for any future problems. I had to go through some bull**** the night before with these 3 creeps, which I'm still pretty sure they had no intention of working on the car at all, but in the end it got fixed and is back on the road now. That's all I wanted. Just sucks that it happened in the first place, but everything worked out and nobody got hurt. That's the important part.
 

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Sounds like it would be exhausting being an acquaintance of yours.





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Priorities . Sell your FN and extended mags and then buy a used jack, set of ramps, jack stands and a tool kit from a pawn shop or craigslist. Then you will probably have enough leftover to buy a Glock. Or maybe you shouldn't have a firearm because people are way too quick to start pulling them. Problems solved.
Nope, problems already solved. I did not come here asking for advice. I know the laws here better than half the people pretending to. Which is why I was not arrested and they said I did everything correctly.
Now these 3 guys have a beef with you, know where you live and what your schedule is. Oh, and you're lucky you didn't go to jail. It's all about what an average person would reasonably believe. Not sure you'd find many that would consider that an imminent deadly threat to justify pulling a gun.
Good luck!
I literally don't care what a bunch of armchair wannabe lawyers are saying. I did nothing wrong here. Police verified that already.

These three also know that I will defend myself if needed, and they do not know what my schedule is, because they don't know what I do for work.

Anyway, closing this thread now. Well when I get back to the laptop anyway.

It's obvious half the people commenting do not know what they are talking about. Especially the clown saying in my state you HAVE to fire if you pull it. Lmao no.
 
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