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Discussion in 'GSSF' started by coyote 30, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. coyote 30

    coyote 30 COYOTE HUNTER!!

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    Has GSSF ever given a junior shooter a savings bond when they finish first in B or C class in Am. Civ.? I don't know all the finishes the last 12 years of GSSF but my gut reaction is they don't give the savings bonds to juniors in B or C class, they just move the winner up or down so that they can give away a gun and the junior is either going to not win or be second and get the $100.
    Just curious as to if GSSF has a unwritten rule about this since everyone wants to win a gun and that it would take a gun out of the winnings if a junior won. Look at the results at Roseburg last month in Am. Civ. That junior in C class was close and I guess it could have gone either way. When a junior wins as number one in A class then GSSF won't be able to avoid giving the savings bond, but till then the classes can sort of be manipulated to give guns to adult winners. Bruce
     
  2. DaleGribble

    DaleGribble Sandwich!

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    I seriously doubt that GSSF would manipulate the standings simply to give away a gun and to avoid giving away a savings bond. That would call in to question the integrity of the matches.
     

  3. DannyR

    DannyR Moderator Millennium Member

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    If a Junior finishes 1st in A, B or C class he or she wins a Savings Bond. There is no moving up or down.
     
  4. coyote 30

    coyote 30 COYOTE HUNTER!!

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    I agree that I don't think there is a manipulation of the standings but has a junior ever won either the B or C class?
    When splitting up the classes in the Roseburg match last month there were 73 shooters. When divided by 3 classes that makes it 24.3 per class. So you either round up or down for B class. Since it is closer to 24 you should round down and that would mean number 24 is top of B class and 48 is top of C class. GSSF rounded up to 25 for top of B class then made top of C class number 49 instead of 50, hence an adult won a gun at 49 and a junior won $100 at 50th place or number two in C class. My math could be wrong as I barely got through math in college but I would still like to know the history from the beginning as to if a junior ever has won either the B or C class. Bruce
     
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    look around and find another match that had 73 shooters in AC. that will tell you.

    i couple of years ago, i finished 40th out of 119 in AC. i knew i would be close to winning the b class gun, but wasnt sure since they initially only posted the scores (and not winners). so i looked through all the previous match results and finally found one that had the same # of entries in AC and 40th did win the gun. when the results for my match came out, the breakdown was exactly the same and i won the b class gun. i would think they have a set formula for doing the class breakdowns. plus, i dont see why they would care about giving away a bond...they give away plenty of both cash and guns.
     
  6. Rusty Phillips

    Rusty Phillips Moderator Millennium Member

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    someone who knows should probably post this, instead of someone who just makes crap up out of thin air

    but since I have to stick with what I am good at, I'll make something up......

    I think that if the field can be split exactly in thirds, (say 90) then there's your A B and C (30,30,30)

    if there is one extra entry, (91) it goes into the top A class - (31,30,30)

    if there are two extra entries (92) one goes to A, the other to C
    (31,30,31)

    then if you have 93 entries.... it can be split into thirds so you have (31,31,31)





    but then I could be wrong
     
  7. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    GSSF has set rules for how they divide uneven numbers of competitors, seems to me the odd person will end up in C class. I.e. 100 competitors, A=33, B=33, and C=34. I asked at a dinner one match and Jackie explained it to me. By the way this is how Roseburg was done, A=24, B=24 and C=25.

    Why would you even think GSSF cares who wins a gun or savings bond? ;Q
     
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    I plan on going to Nashua in a few weeks. I can't wait. For a small price they sure give a lot of prizes. Who cares who get's the free B-C guns and bonds? ;Q
    Might as well draw for it! Seems like a gift unless you really do WIN it by beating other people.
     
  9. DannyR

    DannyR Moderator Millennium Member

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    Russell92 won a savings Bond for a 1st Place "B" class finish a few years back.

    GSSF follows a strick, consistant class break when the number of shooters is not evenly divisible by 3.
     
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    G7 Mostly Metric

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    I remember almost what Fireglock did: 1 extra goes in C class, 2 extra go one each in B & C (not A & C).

    I muse about mineutia such as this, as well. ^d (Scores and scoring, not the smilies . . .)

    ;? Happy & Safe Independence Day !!!
     
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    Bruce, I remember this because it was our local match. Heather Deppe, a Junior shooter, won C class at the 2003 San Antonio match. The results shows her winning a savings bond as well as $ 75 for being High Junior Female. Hope this helps. Tony.
     
  12. coyote 30

    coyote 30 COYOTE HUNTER!!

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    Thanks Tony,
    I figured GSSF had it all figured out. After looking at the Roseburg results closer they made the right call in where they placed the winners. I have had nothing but good experiences with GSSF and can't wait till the next match at Couer d'Alene this month. Bruce Clemans