I've using the 4 step draw stroke for many of years. Which I've very slightly modified to my type of shooting at the time. I saw this video with Ron Avery about his version of the draw to I thought I'd try it for myself. By the end of day I can draw, fire and hit a 4" circle in around 1sec (.94,.92,1.08,1.05). Tomorrow I will try the trigger stripe target. Video on the draw [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMSlCyc-SQQ"]Ron Avery Talks the Science of the Draw Stroke - YouTube[/ame] Video on trigger press and trigger strip target. Part 1 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azb3q8wOrV4"]TRIGGERSTRIPE DRILL PART 1 - YouTube[/ame] Part 2 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h9rKDEXPvM"]TRIGGERSTRIPE DRILL PART 2 - YouTube[/ame] I would like to have an adult discussion about this and I encourage you to train on it. I am not saying this is THE way or BEST way to do it. I also don't want to hear negative personal opinions about the people involved. Check it out, give it shot, and other than above what do you think.