A Coming Generational Conflict

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  1. racerford

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    So further screw those that worked hard to be prosperous, and those that live in high cost areas.

    Or maybe we could transition to a public private solution where there is are actual funds(like people think), instead of this fake Ponzi tax scheme.
     
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  2. Intolerant

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    Wouldn`t that just allow the government to steal even more of your money?
    Show me a program that the gov`t has invented, and it isn`t a complicated mess.
    The problem with SS is the gov`t. They created it so that they had another place to get money from.

    The gov`t just smiles at you and always say, "we`re just borrowing it, we know whats best for you"
     
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  3. AK_Stick

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    Are you suggesting that a forum full of old men who are taking Govt welfare in the form of SS and are out of touch with reality?


    Say it isn’t so.
     
  4. mike from st pe

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    Yep, some one has to pay their fair share, either that or privatize SSI.
     
  5. racerford

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    If the issue is paying their fair share, would that mean taxing the lower paid people more, since they are the ones getting more out than they put in, on a percentage basis. As someone with a family of four that pay more in federal income taxes, that the budget divided by the number of people times my 4, I pay more than my fair share. Or do you have a different version of fair share? What exactly is your version of "fair share". I find the answers to be interesting when I ask this.
     
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  6. Jonesee

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    Great idea. Everyone pays their fair share.
    Not some pay their unfair share to make up for those that don't.
     
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    Or, how about we can it and you don’t get some of my check to support you because you’re old.
     
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  8. Eagle54

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    Sounds good on paper, until such time as we need to decide who defines "fair".
     
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  9. Jonesee

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    The percentage of tax is the same for all. No cap for the higher earners (it will cost them more).

    The formula for determining benefits is the same for all. No cap for higher earners (it will pay them more).
     
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    Is that person in the left picture really a Russian with a Russian submachine gun? If so, such “fake memes” kill the messsge.
     
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    Social Security benefit formula values “first covered dollar” taxed earnings far higher than it does “last covered dollar” earnings. Removing the cap on taxed earnings would probably extend that formula.
     
  12. xTerpx

    xTerpx Preferred Pronouns: (It, Ya'll, Bruh)

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  13. Jonesee

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    Change the formula. Make it perfectly fair.
    If that is not conducive to a viable Social Security fund, increase everyone's taxes equally until it does. Or, cut SS benefits equally.

    That isn't unfair, it is perfectly fair.
     
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    As you are well aware, not everyone on this site is conservative.
     
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    I'd ask him but he is dead. I think he is a real person though so your "fake memes" message is pretty much asinine.
     
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    Lol.
     
  17. pizza_pablo

    pizza_pablo USN Retired

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    The only debt I have is my home. Its worth about $400K and I owe about $165K. It should be paid off, in about 8 years, when I plan to retire. Cars are paid for. Motorcycles paid for. I retired from Uncle Sam's Navy, but still work and have a good job.
    Whom and how did I take advantage of anyone?
     
  18. evlbruce

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    1968 all over again. But kids now as then will grow up and learn that reality doesn't care about teh fee fees.

    * Politics is violence.
    * Economic egalitarianism is not achievable nor is it desirable.
    * Other People's Money results in worst possible outcomes.
    * TINSTAFL
    * Compounding interest is the "most powerful force in the universe."
     
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  19. RenoF250

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    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sarcasm?s=t
     
  20. pizza_pablo

    pizza_pablo USN Retired

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    Dude, I do sarcasm.
    Your post seemed legit. I've read many times, most of them on this forum, that many have no retirement, nest egg, etcetera, etcetera.
    I just ASSUMED the second remark was as serious as the first.
    My badd dogg.
    :notworthy:
     
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