I didn't mean to bump this off course. My point was if a 9MM is considered too small maybe it's time to look at any handgun as being not appropriate to the task. The whole M-1 thing I brought is that can't bring any handgun to Canada for self defense and the eight shot Garand is the exception to the five shot semi-automatic rule. It was posted that a handgun is handier if your working or being involved in some activity making a rifle too cumbersome by all means power up. I'd still rather have a rifle.