9MM revolver -

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  1. Z71bill

    Z71bill

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    Thinking about a small revolver - but don't want to add another caliber

    Any opinions about a 9MM - most likely a Ruger LCRx®
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    Plus - can you shoot .380 auto from a 9MM revolver with moon clips?

    This guy does it - at about 2:00 minute mark.



    Is it safe?


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HF8mQoHY_U
     
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  2. familyman357

    familyman357 I'd be more cynical, but my apathy prevents it.

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    I used to own a S&W 940 (actually, two at one point).

    Ballistically, they’re great. Oodles of velocity.

    Actually shooting them sucked. Even being stainless steel J-frames there was a lot of sharp felt recoil. No fun at all.

    Loading - and especially unloading - the moon clips got real old real quick... and I never did find a satisfactory way of carrying a reload without worrying about bending the clip.

    I loved the ballistic figures, but I sold them long ago and I don’t regret it.

    I have no idea about using .380. I never even thought to try it.
     
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  3. Walter Bishop

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    9mm snubby revolver has a lot more recoil than you expect. A 9mm revolver is one of those things that people keep saying should be popular but they actually aren't.
     
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  4. collim1

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    I drooled over a S&W 940 for years until I finally got to shoot a revolver with moon clips. They are kind of a pain.

    I’ll stick to my 38’s

    As far as the 380 in a 9mm revolver goes I don’t see why not. The projectile and case are the same diameter. It should be safe, but not sure if it would accurate.
     
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  5. John_AZ

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    Had one. Thought it would be great to be able to shoot it with the range ammo at work.

    Sold it after a couple months and went back to my 442
     
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  6. China boy

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    I feel the LCR in 38 sucks to shoot. Its very unpleasant to me. Anyone shoot the 38 and the 9mm and have an opinion on what has more recoil?
     
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  7. Lil

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    I'd add another caliber before I add moonclips. 38 Sp, 357 M, 327 Fed Mag - many solid choices. Why not one of the above?
     
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  9. rds95991

    rds95991 NRA Benefactor

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    Due to the taper crimp on 9mm, you might see bullets backing out. When I got my 929, I fired six and removed the two remaining cartridges. One was definitely longer and with the other, the bullet and powder fell out in my hand. I called the manufacturer and they knew of this issue. This was factory aluminum cased ammo. Since them, whenever I am trying a new brand of ammo in my semi auto cartridge chambered revolvers, I always do not fire one or two cartridges and check their length to see if the bullets are backing out.

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    The local shop has a SP101 in 9mm. I'm curious but don't have the money for it
     
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  11. GlockBill

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    I'd look at the Taurus 692 - with separate cylinders for .357 / 9mm if I was considering a 9mm revolver. In general, I'm not a big fan of Taurus, but the 692 is appealing.
     
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    Moon clips are easy to damage if you carry a reload in your pocket. I'd go with a 38/357 and load it with Buffalo Bore wadcutters.
    I had a 940 I used for a bootleg BUG match and kicked ass over the 38s on the reloads.
     
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    I have a Taurus 692 and usually shoot the 9mm cylinder without using the moon clips. Being a medium sized revolver recoil is mild.
     
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    Lt. Donn PSO Survivor. currently in NW Georgia

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    If I was going there, it would be an all steel model like the 101...the others seem too light to dampen the recoil
     
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    Why would anyone want to shoot 380 out of a defensive 9mm pocket revolver? It’s twice the price and half the power

    It’s not twice the price at the moment, but still more expensive.
     
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    sometimes you gotta bite the bullet:okie:
    just buy some 38 special... :highfive:
     
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    I bought a Sp101 in 9mm when they started making them again, I really like it, fun to shoot and at the time 9mm was cheaper than 38.
    9mm target loads out of a revolver has a little kick to it, more than 38 target IMO.
     
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  18. GlockBill

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    I agree about shooting .380 out of a gun that's meant to shoot 9mm. I'd only do it if I really had to - as in all I have available is .380 ammo, and a 9mm revolver with some moon clips. If that ever happens, it would be a really desperate situation.
     
  19. Z71bill

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    Well I only have two reasons - are they valid? I think so -

    A lot depends on if it is in fact completely safe - you know like shooting 38 special out of a .357 Mag is safe.

    1. I have 400 rounds of .380 (200 are reloads that can't really be sold) and my only .380 is a P3AT.

    It will take me the rest of my life +20 years to use them up with the P3AT.

    2. It may also be a good way to get a new shooter started - my wife has expressed some interest in a handgun again. She shoots my S&W model 63 in .22LR and seems to like it - it has the 5" barrel and is a little unbalanced in her hands - so maybe a smaller revolver with a shorter barrel - using a low power cartridge could help her get started and then transition to another more capable SD load like a 9MM.


    I know Ruger and Taurus sell a .380 revolver - but I don't want to commit to keeping the caliber - I don't want to ever buy .380 ammo again - and in fact sold a bunch of it - a month or so ago. Made almost enough to buy a revolver at last year's prices. I figure if my wife likes it and transitions to 9MM it would be a win - win. If she decides she doesn't like it - I would much rather have a 9MM revolver than a .380 revolver. So that would be a lose - win.

    The added cost and poor SD ballistics of the .380 are valid reasons why most people would not want to buy a 9MM revolver to shoot .380. I can sure see that.

    So - Is it safe to shoot .380 in a 9MM revolver?

    Much lower pressure - 21,500 VS 34,000 or I wouldn't even be asking.


    .380 ACP ---------------------------------------9mm
    Designer
    John Browning----------------------Georg Luger
    Bullet diameter .355 in (9.0 mm) -----------9.01 mm (0.355 in)
    Case type Rimless, straight -------------------Rimless, tapered
    Neck diameter .373 in (9.5 mm) -------------9.65 mm (0.380 in)
    Place of origin United States------------------ German Empire
    Maximum pressure 21,500 psi (148 MPa)----235.00 MPa (34,084 psi)
    Base diameter .374 in (9.5 mm) --------------9.93 mm (0.391 in)
    Rim diameter .374 in (9.5 mm) ---------------9.96 mm (0.392 in)
    Case length .680 in (17.3 mm) ----------------19.15 mm (0.754 in)
    Overall length .984 in (25.0 mm) ------------- 29.69 mm (1.169 in)
     
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  20. IAhunter

    IAhunter Venor ergo sum

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    This. I don't see a point in 9mm revolvers. As soon as there is an ammo crunch, 9mm becomes unobtainium. A local chain store has .38 Special in stock and it is my belief that .38 Special is THE easiest round to reload.
     
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