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9mm HD round?

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by venenoindy, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. venenoindy

    venenoindy

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    I'm looking for a home defence round and don't know if have to go 115gr or 147gr?
     
  2. 17119jfkioe

    17119jfkioe

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    124gr speer gold dot +p is a highly recommended one. I myself use it
     

  3. MURRAY

    MURRAY Millennium Member

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    look around here lots of good info I go with 147 Hst or Ranger T in my 9mm
     
  4. tbhracing

    tbhracing Senior Member

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    I use Remington Golden Saber 124 grain, no +p. Also like Federal Premium, non +p.
     
  5. glocknbruce

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    opinions on this subject are like noses, everybodys got one.....

    but for my .02 there is no better load in 9mm than the Winchester 127 grain +p+

    ammunitiontogo.com has them in stock
     
  6. tx787

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    Neither, 124 +p

    That being said any will be just fine although I don't like +p+
     
  7. DRT

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    +1 or 127gr +P+ Ranger Tseries
     
  8. Dandapani

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    What's a "home defense" round? One that doesn't penetrate dry wall, but is a one-shot stop in the BG?
     
  9. Glolt20-91

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    This ammo gets high marks from a number of different GT members, one of my favorite bullets to load in .38Super because its velocity window can be pushed and it'll still perform very well.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=212747

    The 124gr Gold Dot was deemed a caliber failure by NYSP, but NYCPD has stayed with it. 6 well placed shots on two felons, they continue giving return fire killing a State Trooper; and both felons survive.

    For personal protection at this weight group, the 124gr XTP is a much, much better choice than the 124gr GD.

    Bob :cowboy:
     
  10. fredj338

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    I'm not a 147grJHP fan, in most manuf, too much penetration & not quite enough expansion, HST are probably the exception though. I lean to 124gr+P when I do go to a 9mm. RIght now, it's 124grRGS+P or BlackHills 124grXTP+P. The BH is hot, making 1220fps in my G26.
    There is some merit to going lighter, faster JHP like a 115gr to limit penetration in bldg. mat'l. your call, but everything that goes through drywall.
     
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    HST, Ranger T, PDX1, Gold Dot in 124/127/147.
     
  12. Ljay

    Ljay Micky's Packin

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    Remington Golden Sabers,

    124Grn. +P Works so well in my G-26, And Browning HP,s No need to try anything else, Dont care about groups @25Yrds, Just SD.
     
  13. cowboy1964

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    Actually the NYC PD uses the 124+P. That round has an excellent record.
     
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    I thought the GD's had an excellent record. I was confused by cowboys post.
     
  16. Pardoner

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    +1... I'll put my trust in either of the 124 grn gold dot loadings.

    They have been around a long time for a reason.
     
  17. HWA GLOCKER

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    147 Hst, but my night stand gun is a g21sf with 230gr HST's
     
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    http://www.gunweek.com/2007/feature0410.html

    The caliber trend in law enforcement has been moving away from 9mm for some time now. NYSP changed to the .45GAP;

    http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/Pub...State_Police_to Purchase_New_Glock_Pistol.cfm

    124gr Gold Dot at +P velocity;

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    Same test, 327 Federal Mag 115gr Gold Dot;

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    147gr Win JHP pushed to mid 1100s held together, retained its weight and mushroomed nicely;

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    147gr Golden Sabers mid 1100s, don't give me much confidence:

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    Bob
     
  19. cowboy1964

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    Clogged hollow points are not unique to the 9mm. Yeah an unexpanded .45 is bigger than an unexpanded 9mm, we all know that. But placement and penetration trump expansion all day long. If shots don't hit the right parts four .45 slugs won't stop a felon any faster than a 9mm.

    I have yet to see any details on exactly what wounds those two shooters in the NY SP case received. All I know is 4 hits to one guy, 1 wound (in the back) to the other.

    NY loves 10 round magazines. I wonder if that was factor in choosing the 37. Otherwise why not .357SIG? Superior barrier penetration and 30% more rounds and, arguably, slightly better stopping power.
     
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  20. GunFighter45ACP

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    I like +p+ in 9mms w/a 4" or greater length barrel. I've currently got Win 127 +p+ loaded in my 9mm, but wouldn't hesitate to go the Fed 115 +p+ route if I could get my hands on them as well.