9mm Bolt Rifle

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  1. DustyJacket

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    Ever since I got my 9mm suppressor, I have been hankering for a 9mm bolt action rifle.
    The only way to get one was to find a Spanish Destroyer (9mm Largo) and have it rebarrelled and modified to take M1911 9mm magazines.

    So I made do with pistols: Beretta, 2 different SIGs, an AR pistol, and a Glock.
    None really did it for me.

    Today, I picked up my 9mm Novem by SIA - Based on a Rock Island TCM rifle shooting .22 TCM ammo.

    Cant get to the range for a week, probably, so I may have to use that tattered stack of phone books everyone with a pistol caliber can has....

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    That looks very nice, this is the first I've seen of the Novem. Interested to hear how it shoots. I'm currently waiting to get my suppressor out of jail and have been working up a few different 160gr 9mm loads for it.
     

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    Did the phone book thing.
    Was quieter than any pistol I suppressed, but wasn't as quiet as I hoped.
    FMJ American Eagle was 'ok', but some plated rounds were much louder. I am wondering if plated rounds slide through the barrel easier or something.
     
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    I imagine with subsonic rounds it should be pretty quiet
     
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    That is very interesting. How hard is it to swap barrels? Could you have a 9mm and a 22TCM?
     
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    Shooting at the shorter distances in your basement, you are much closer to the backstop, and the loud "smack" of the bullet hitting it.

    If you get outside and shoot at a range with a 25 or 50 yard dirt backstop, it will probably sound a lot better. That way you separate the sound of the suppressed rifle from the sound of the bullet hitting the backstop.
     
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    I had a Destroyer rebarreled to 9x19 before the TCM rifles were being made. 1911 mags are easy enough to modify. You just have to cut a notch in the back of the mag body.

    I think if I were to do it today, I'd just get a Novem as well. Just better all around.

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    You can hear the action is louder than the shot.

     
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    That's awesome... I've thought abut getting something like that. I shoot a bolt acton 38 special for similar effect. You really have to hand load to get things properly quiet. If applicable, shoot the can wet.

    A light 100g coated cast bullet, wet can, and a fast powder spitting the bullet out under 1k fps will be very quiet. That's the recipe for my rifle at least when I want mouse fart rounds.
     
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    Use the ar-15 platform as a base
     
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    A 9mm AR wouldn't be gas, right? How would you stop it from cycling?
     
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    Yeah, I didn't know about it until I posted that it was discontinued. You'd think there'd be a market for one. A Ruger American 9mm with a threaded barrel, and takes Glock mags like the PC9...
     
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    Have you considered a pump-action AR-style rifle?
    Closed/locked breech for good suppression, and rapidity of fire comparable to a semi-auto.
    At least one company makes conversion kits:

    https://www.ctlegalars.com/pump-action-rifle

    Troy still makes full pump-action AR rifles in 5.56mm and .308 (perhaps other companies do too).
    Probably wouldn't be too hard to convert one of these to 9mm.
     
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    Didn't know that existed... pretty interesting.
     
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    If a normal 5.56 bolt/bolt carrier was used with a 9mm barrel it shouldn't cycle.
     
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    That can be done. But you would need to build a 9mm barrel with an extension for the bolt to lock in to.

    A couple of places are making these for gas-operated 9mm guns.
     
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    And with an adjustable gas block, you could switch between semi and manual on the fly...