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Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Gundude, Sep 24, 2020.
^^^ My immediate reaction when I read the title to this thread.
You nailed it.
It's exactly why we need the Electoral College.
Can you imagine if we voted as a nation on the Bill of Rights now? Freedom of the press? No way. Second Amendment? Absolutely no way! Etc. Etc. Etc.
If we start tinkering with the Constitution (aside from the amendment process, which is intentionally difficult), we're lost as a nation.
When the Electoral College is abolished then southern CA, Chicago, and NYC will dictate to the rest of our country.
More fake polls intended to influence public opinion, not reflect public opinion.
Mass delusion vs sound logic
Always a toss up
Given that the Electoral College currently exists to protect the rights of the minority, the fact that a majority wants to eliminate it is completely irrelevant.
DC will become a state so either way the left will have the vote in coming years
If we truly went by popular vote we wouldn't have elected officials. Most people don't vote
Spot on CORRECT!
That is exactly why they want the EC removed, so they can run the rest of the country into the chithole.
^^^ Spot on!
The founders did not want changes to the Constitution to be taken lightly. It's why 3/4 of the states have to agree to any changes. Amendments have to be really good ideas supported by a large majority. There have admittedly been some bad ones - prohibition, income tax, direct election of senators.
But leftists want to change the Constitution without going through the amendment process, because they know their ideas do not have the support of the majority. That's why they're crazed about the SCOTUS. They know that if they can put a majority of far left extremists on the court, the Constitution can be adjudicated out of existence, and they can create the socialist utopia they crave.
What the 13 colonies did not want.
Yes, direct election of Senators is a curse.
State selection of Senators gave the State some control of the Feds.
I got some $$$ that says "61%" can not (accurately) describe how the electoral college works. They don't know, what they don't know.
Define democracy: three wolves and a lamb deciding what is for dinner. Other wise known as tyranny of the majority.
No electoral college - then no country (nation).
99% of those 61% who said yes believe the Electoral College is the reason why they have to pay back their college tuition loans.
Civics missing in Education!
Outlaw public schools; schools have no need to be influenced by local government either; private schools only and let the free market pick winners and loosers; Schools could also receive endowments with US origin, no foreign income source. No foreign students accepted, period!
Private Education Accreditation entities would emerge, giving parents educated choices in choosing where to educate their children.
I would ask, 61% of whom? Most of these polls are conducted at gay rights rallies and democrat gatherings of one sort or another, and are basically meaningless.
They probably do, and don't care. Most people could care less what the conditions were at the start of this country, and don't really think they still apply. I bet if someone did a poll and whether or not the constitution should be discarded completely and a new governing document drawn up from scratch, excluding the states as parties in it's development, with a simple majority vote of the population necessary to approve implementing the new document, the majority of the poll respondents would be in favor.
I think if presidential election by direct popular vote isn't implemented, at some point the country will likely break up. Of course, if presidential election by direct popular vote is implemented, the country would break up shortly thereafter.
It always amazes me how we have the brilliance of the founding fathers always under attack by those who think they are smarter. Its always a bad joke. It gives foundation to the claims that great societies collapse from attacks within not from the obvious enemies without.
The EC helps avoid what is called the"tyranny of the majority". In this case just the major liberal metro areas.
We have not taught American history, government, and civics in K-12 schools for many years. So now we are saddled with 2 or 3 generations of young people who have no concept of why our founding fathers wrote what they wrote, and why they setup the government of this nation they way they did. These folks have no understanding of the function of the EC and what will be lost if it is abolished. Thank God it would take an amendment to the Constitution. I doubt they could get 2/3rds of both houses or 2/3rds of all the states to propose such a thing, and then get 3/4ths of the states to ratify it.