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550 case feeder....

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I need opinions on the 550 case feeder. Its been out awhile and I figured people would have more expericence with them now. Not really looking to buy a new press at this time just speed up my old one. So what do you guys think about them.

FYI, I tend to load in lots of 1000 or more before switching calibers and mostly load only one caliber any more.

Any thougts or opinions would help, Thanks.
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Steve (C4W) had one for awhile, and ended up taking it off his machine. He's pretty knowledgeable about making things work, and if he isn't giving it the thumbs up, I'd second guess getting one.

I also have a 550 and would love a casefeeder... but I think I'm going to jump to a 650/1050 as I also want a bullet feeder.
Brian Enos has a long thread with people who bought them. You should read it.

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/ind...50 casefeeder poll&fromsearch=1&#entry1233773

Most people like them. they have limitations. Steve had issues but he has issues with everything that isn't perfect. The more calibers people use them on the more issues they seem to have. A guy named Jim Thompson has a video of him loading 1000 round a hour rate with a 550 with a bullet and case feeders.

heres a nice pic of one! also it does not do rifle.. but if i had a 550 and didnt want to buy a 650 this would be kinda where its at if your 550 is dedicated your probably better off.


also here is another post about it http://www.glockpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9943
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MY buddy put one on his 550 for .45 ACP. PITA was the general concensus... you still have to index by hand and he really only increased his output by a 200-300 an hour.

Upgrade to a XL650 which is a ground up designed machine for a case feeder... or even a LNL.
OMG... did BG just tell someone to get a LNL????

*ducks and runs before it starts raining frogs and bowling balls*
OMG... did BG just tell someone to get a LNL????

*ducks and runs before it starts raining frogs and bowling balls*
yes but he put ....or even a lnl
OMG... did BG just tell someone to get a LNL????

*ducks and runs before it starts raining frogs and bowling balls*

I've never had anything against an LNL.... just the features offered by that particular machine as lacking for my needs. (I would need to build a custom bech right out the gate, no strongmount, bullet tray or roller handle with an LNL)
I believe them basically to be compareable machines. The only drawback that anyone can really hold me to regarding my choice to go with the XL650 is conversion cost.
However, for my intended needs which will eventually include 9mm, .380 Auto and .223 I get basically 3 for the price of 2 use of the conversions interchanging a few components. There is only one additional part I need to do .380, if having the 9mm and .223 conversions already. Dies are a wash, you need those for any machine, same with the case feeder plate.
I don't play the blue kool aide stance to get others riled up. Whatever suit you reloading needs is none of my business. I just hate that "it better value cause you get free bullets with an LNL" BS... Both machines have certain drawbacks depending on the intended user.
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I know BG.. I was just yankin yer chain ;)
I have a casefeeder on my 550.

I can really only say good things about mine. I load .45 mostly, but also 10mm, 38/357 and some .40.

Supposedly, I was supposed to buy more parts for the casefeeder to work for the other calibers (other than .45). It works great without the extra parts.

Honestly, mine works *nearly* flawlessly. The "problems" I have had are:

1. Occasionally, the hopper jams
2. Sometimes the mechanism that pushes a case into the shellplate doesn't quite get it in far enough
3. The camplate for the roller follower took some time to get aligned JUST right.

When I say the hopper jams, I mean that a case doesn't drop into the tube, and instead, gets pinched between the wall of the hopper and the wheel. Again, I have the wheel/conversion parts for .45, and use it for all of the above listed calibers. Guessing here - but I would say a .45 case jams the hopper once ever 1000 rounds. More for the other calibers - probably more like once every 300 or 400 rounds. When you notice it (either you haven't heard any cases drop into the tube for a while, or you run out of cases at the shellplate), you look up, see the jammed case and unpinch it. This takes less than 5 seconds.

The feeder that pushes a case into the shellplate, probably once every 200 or 300 rounds, doesn't quite put it in far enough, so that the machine jams, when the case doesn't go into the size die. 9 times out of 10, relieving pressure on the lever and trying again fixes this.

Still other times, the case won't be seated deep enough into the shell plate for the primer to line up. Again, a wiggle of the lever usually fixes this. I'm not sure if this is a function of the case feeder, or the Dillon press in general.

I bought my machine assembled, and made thousands of rounds with it before I got enough of a "feel" to realize something wasn't quite right. I ended up needing to adjust the camplate for the casefeeder roller follower. The cam was too far away from the follower, resulting in too much bending stress on the shoulder bolt the roller follower runs about. Adjusting the cam plate to be closer resulting in interference between the index star (on the shellplate) and the camplate, so I had to file/grind a small amount on the camplate - but the machine runs much more smoothly now.

Overall, I think I'd give the 550 casefeeder a 93% grade.

I have never taken the feeder off to convert my press for loading rifle, but I understand it's a bit of a project to take it off and reinstall.

I have no idea what the actual loading rate is with/without the feeder, but I find my "technique" to be very natural and quick.

I always keep my right hand on the lever. While my right hand is pushing down on the lever, my left hand is grabbing a bullet from the tray. As soon as I prime the case, I index the shellplate with my left thumb (bullet still held between thumb and forefinger), and then I place the bullet into the mouth of the case in station 3.

Then repeat.

I have a hard time believing a bullet feeder OR auto-indexing would speed me up much. As it is, I can make a boatload of ammo right quick........
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I have a hard time believing a bullet feeder OR auto-indexing would speed me up much. As it is, I can make a boatload of ammo right quick........
Bullet feeder can't tell you.... don't have one yet. XL650 with casefeeder for 9mm I can do 100 rounds every 6-7 minutes no sweat.
I have a casefeeder on my 550.

I can really only say good things about mine. I load .45 mostly, but also 10mm, 38/357 and some .40.

Supposedly, I was supposed to buy more parts for the casefeeder to work for the other calibers (other than .45). It works great without the extra parts.

Honestly, mine works *nearly* flawlessly. The "problems" I have had are:

1. Occasionally, the hopper jams
2. Sometimes the mechanism that pushes a case into the shellplate doesn't quite get it in far enough
3. The camplate for the roller follower took some time to get aligned JUST right.

When I say the hopper jams, I mean that a case doesn't drop into the tube, and instead, gets pinched between the wall of the hopper and the wheel. Again, I have the wheel/conversion parts for .45, and use it for all of the above listed calibers. Guessing here - but I would say a .45 case jams the hopper once ever 1000 rounds. More for the other calibers - probably more like once every 300 or 400 rounds. When you notice it (either you haven't heard any cases drop into the tube for a while, or you run out of cases at the shellplate), you look up, see the jammed case and unpinch it. This takes less than 5 seconds.

The feeder that pushes a case into the shellplate, probably once every 200 or 300 rounds, doesn't quite put it in far enough, so that the machine jams, when the case doesn't go into the size die. 9 times out of 10, relieving pressure on the lever and trying again fixes this.

Still other times, the case won't be seated deep enough into the shell plate for the primer to line up. Again, a wiggle of the lever usually fixes this. I'm not sure if this is a function of the case feeder, or the Dillon press in general.

I bought my machine assembled, and made thousands of rounds with it before I got enough of a "feel" to realize something wasn't quite right. I ended up needing to adjust the camplate for the casefeeder roller follower. The cam was too far away from the follower, resulting in too much bending stress on the shoulder bolt the roller follower runs about. Adjusting the cam plate to be closer resulting in interference between the index star (on the shellplate) and the camplate, so I had to file/grind a small amount on the camplate - but the machine runs much more smoothly now.

Overall, I think I'd give the 550 casefeeder a 93% grade.

I have never taken the feeder off to convert my press for loading rifle, but I understand it's a bit of a project to take it off and reinstall.

I have no idea what the actual loading rate is with/without the feeder, but I find my "technique" to be very natural and quick.

I always keep my right hand on the lever. While my right hand is pushing down on the lever, my left hand is grabbing a bullet from the tray. As soon as I prime the case, I index the shellplate with my left thumb (bullet still held between thumb and forefinger), and then I place the bullet into the mouth of the case in station 3.

Then repeat.

I have a hard time believing a bullet feeder OR auto-indexing would speed me up much. As it is, I can make a boatload of ammo right quick........

93%. Seems about right. For me when I can load 100 rds in 8 mins the trouble of that 7% was not worth it because I lost that speed backtracking. Anything that adds fiddle is not worth my trouble.
93%. Seems about right. For me when I can load 100 rds in 8 mins the trouble of that 7% was not worth it because I lost that speed backtracking. Anything that adds fiddle is not worth my trouble.
Yeah... I can load 100 bullets in 10 minutes without a casefeeder. That is cranking, and I can only maintain that pace for about 30 minutes or so (gets me 300 bullets). That's all I usually need to make in one sitting. I would also like not to have to *fiddle* with things.

I think I'll wait until I go the 650/1050 route before I get a casefeeder.
Exactly, and if 21 rounds out of those 300 are require me to correct something it's just a distraction that is not worth having.
So what your saying is that its hard to get it to run right and doesn't really increase production due to constant adjustments?

Like I said I don't really want to buy a new press. I just want to "streamline" or make the process easier for me. Right now I am doing rougly 3-400 rounds an hour without too much effort. I just hate loading the cases into the press and want a higher production rate

Like I said I don't set up the press till I am ready to load more than 1000 of any round.
So what your saying is that its hard to get it to run right and doesn't really increase production due to constant adjustments?

Like I said I don't really want to buy a new press. I just want to "streamline" or make the process easier for me. Right now I am doing rougly 3-400 rounds an hour without too much effort. I just hate loading the cases into the press and want a higher production rate

Like I said I don't set up the press till I am ready to load more than 1000 of any round.
Sounds like the concensus here... sorry to say. But others have had luck with it. I guess it's a matter of YMMV. :dunno:
i guess take a shot at selling it to someone or on ebay and buy a 650
I have followed this thread and others like it with great personal interest as the time for an upgrade is at hand (currently using a Lee Classic turret). Having watched the Hornady produced series of videos I am swayed in the direction of the LnL.
Could someone please tell me the production rate one can reasonably expect from this machine WITHOUT the case and bullet feeders fitted. This assuming my cases have been tumbled beforehand and using plated bullets.
Thank you.
I have followed this thread and others like it with great personal interest as the time for an upgrade is at hand (currently using a Lee Classic turret). Having watched the Hornady produced series of videos I am swayed in the direction of the LnL.
Could someone please tell me the production rate one can reasonably expect from this machine WITHOUT the case and bullet feeders fitted. This assuming my cases have been tumbled beforehand and using plated bullets.
Thank you.

Keep in mind the LnL loads everything from the left side of the press. Typically, you grab a case and then a bullet (or vice versa). You only do one of these at a time. Dillons load the bullet on the left and the case on the right. You do both of these at pratically the same time. I think this saves time. In the end most people with any progressive tend to fall into the 400 rds a hour range. Some are a bit more some are a bit less. I would not expect a LnL or a 550 to have much pratical speed difference until you get a casefeeder on the LnL. After that it's a 650/LnL advantage.
Keep in mind the LnL loads everything from the left side of the press. Typically, you grab a case and then a bullet (or vice versa). You only do one of these at a time. Dillons load the bullet on the left and the case on the right. You do both of these at pratically the same time. I think this saves time. In the end most people with any progressive tend to fall into the 400 rds a hour range. Some are a bit more some are a bit less. I would not expect a LnL or a 550 to have much pratical speed difference until you get a casefeeder on the LnL. After that it's a 650/LnL advantage.
Thank you, Steve. I was hoping you would chime in. I am left handed but pull the lever with my right hand so the bullet and case function being on the left will suit me perfectly. I am off to the Shot Show in January so will get a realtime look at what they have to offer then, and perhaps purchase after that.
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