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45 Super or 10mm - Woods Side Arm - Conversion?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by firemedic1343, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. firemedic1343

    firemedic1343 Not an Expert!

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    Recoil, Safety, Reliability

    There are many similar excellent threads, but I have a unique question. I have NO experience with the 45 Super, my only real expertise is with water guns :ffighter:

    Someone is buying a G21 or G30, but wants to use it often in the lower 48 as a woods side arm. He has a couple of choices that I don't have experience with, so I'm asking which is most reliable, safe and how the recoil may compare.

    1. G21/30- Spring change, recoil buffer. Stock barrel shooting 45 Super.
    2. G21/30- Spring & Magazine change, 10mm Conversion Barrel.
    3. G20/29- Skip the rest and just buy the woods Glock 10mm.
    4. Option4- Tell me what your preference would be.
     
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    3. Even in the lower 48 there are creatures where penetration is essential. 10mm wins that contest. For creatures where as rapid a stop as possible is the goal - cougar for instance - there are 10mm loads that will equal .45 Super. All you have to do is decide what animal is going to attack you at a particular time and load with the approriate magazine.

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    Just buy a g-20 or g-29
     
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    :rofl: I don't like the sound of that...
     
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    There's another option which I don't know much about. G21 plus conversion barrel to shoot .40 super, which produces more energy than 10mm, IIRC.
     
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    45 super can be shot out of a stock g21?

    IE barrel, magazine, extractor?
     
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    Didn't even know there was a .40 Super. Looked it up on Wikipedia and judging by the ballistics, it's looks to be one NASTY round.
     
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    I think so, but I would definitely put in a heavier recoil spring before doing it.
     
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    From what I hear, it's possible to only change the recoil spring. And preferably, adding a recoil buffer to decrease the battering ram effect.

    It supposedly does wear the gun down quicker than standard 45 ACP.
     
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    firemedic1343 Not an Expert!

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    If he buys a conversion barrel, it will be a 10mm, because that's what I have and we can share ammo. So the only option other than 10mm is 45 super. I just don't know how reliable either is in the 45 ACP.
     
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    I have a longslide and 6" barrels in 40 Super and 45 Super that I would use if I got back into that.
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    im considering a 45 acp Glock. Can you just shoot 45 super out of them stock, or would a new spring be advised? Also, how does it compare to 10mm, and are there any safety issues?

    Thanks
     
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    Felt recoil between 10 and 45 Super is pretty much the same. Stronger recoil springs are needed for use with the standard 45 slides.
     
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    Many people pop a 22-24 lb spring in. Safety issues....I have no idea...
     
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    Yeah, but in a self-defense situation, I wonder which would stop a Grizzly or Polar bear faster :shocked: :whistling:
     
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    I do not have any experience with 45 Super but do with the G20SF in 10mm. Heck of a handgun and made better by reloading for it.
    I like my full size G22 and G20SF.
     
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    460XVR :thumbsup: :supergrin:
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    If you are serious about a Glock woods gun, 10mm is your best option.


    Can't even find those calibers on the shelf at some gunshops.

    What good is a gun if you can't find ammo for it unless you reload?

    45 super and 40 super and these other wildcat calibers only work for reloaders and there is little trade-in value on the wildcat barrels and conversions.

    I prefer my G20 on mu hip when near bear country while turkey hunting. The data shows that 10mm will deliver 694 fpe just as good as 45 super.

    Not a guide gun but it's a start.
     
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    Shooting hot 40SW, 357 sig, and 10mm with both spring weights - no problem. Just locks lockup a tad. So only count on one maybe two shots in close quarters. YMMV.
     
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    You should only do 45Super in a G21 with Comp. If you do this, you can load the 45Super to be more powerful than 10mm.

    If you don't like having a comp.
    or
    If you don't like reloading.
    or
    If you want a smaller gun.
    or....
    Get a 10mm