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45 degree start?

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by Flexmoney, Aug 19, 2002.

  1. Flexmoney

    Flexmoney

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    How do the Glock Masters do it?


    I see two ways.

    1.) Start with the arms extended to their normal shooting length, then raise them (I think that would cause the gun to whip some at the end???)

    2.) Start with the gun in close to the body, then press out...like the final portion of a holster draw.
     
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    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    Well I'm not a master but I do fairly well and I setup with my arms in their extended position. Actually I'm not sure that you wouldn't receive a safety call if you held the firearm in close to your body. I've seen several of our better Master shooters run the stages and they all seem to use the extended arms position. Did you happen to check out the tips from the pros?
     

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    I scanned thru some of the tips...nothing jumped out at me.
     
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    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    Your right, it wasn't there. E-mail me and I'll try to get you a copy of a video I have of Richmond 2001. I have a Master shooting Stockmeister and Unlimited.
     
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    email sent. Thanks!

    The only real difference in the two techniques is that one is straight armed and the other is bent elbows. Both would have the gun pointed at a 45 degree angle...and be safe.

    The bent arm would give me the same press out that I use in other action pistol games during the draw.
     
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    I have timed myself both ways. I am a little faster with arms extended.

    You should use what works best for you.

    Dale
     
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    Thanks Dale.

    What kind of first shot times are we looking at? (distance?)
     
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    For me it's around .4-.6 for the first shot and the distance is the 11 yards that the plate rack is set at. That is starting at extended arms.
     
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    Wow...that is pretty quick. Figure a reaction time of .15-.25 that makes getting the gun on the target and getting the sights in about .30

    I haven't tried it...but a trick was suggested to me with the red-dot. Instead of looking at the target while waiting to start, go ahead and find the dot while in the start position.
     
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    TJC "No Compromise" Millennium Member

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    Flex,

    I would not suggest that method as the preffered. Locate the dot in the ready position, but be looking at the target. If you practice enough, the dot will automatically come up on target when the buzzer sounds. As the dot reaches the first plate, your finger is moving onto the trigger, while squeezing that shot off you are locating the next plate in your side vision and scope. Do that 5 times and your plate run will be right around 2.0-2.5. Of course you allow for miss once in a while;) which causes about another .5 to be added on. Total 9.0-10.

    Good luck!:)
     
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    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    You make it sound soooo easy! ;f
     
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    I'll be "seeing what I need to see"...and, most importantly...following through.

    ( I don't know about the "..., while squeezing that shot off you are locating the next plate in your side vision and scope".)

    Ok...anyway...

    If I go with the extended arms...and watch the dot/front sight on the way up, I see that the gun is praire-doging. It bobs up and down some at the end of the movement.
     
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    FG,

    Isn't it;d

    I just love those plates.;e